[comp.sys.ibm.pc] RLL controlers - summary of responses

darren@ethos.UUCP (02/12/87)

I recently posted a request for information on RLL controllers.  What follows
is a summary of the responses mailed to me (minus the headers and footers).
Thanks to all of you who responded.  I am not listing responses sent through
the net because if you were interrested, you probably read them anyway (and
besides, I forgot to save them).
 
Several people were concerned about the compatability of RLL controlers and
drives.  The following is an excerpt from the Febuary '87 issue of Computer
Shopper.  Hope it helps.  Good luck!
 
========== Page 135 - "RLL controllers" Computer Shopper 2/87 ================
Some of the drives sucessfully tested by Scientific Micro Systems
 
CDC		9415-36		OTARI		514
 
CMI		3212		QUANTUM		540
		3426
		6426		RODIME		352
		6440
				SEAGATE		ST213
CYNTHIA		570				ST225
						ST412/212
DMA/RICOH					ST4026
						ST4038
LAPINE		3522
				SHUGART		712
MAXTOR		XT1140
				TULIN		240
MICROSCIENCS	HH321
				VERTEX		V170
MINISCRIBE	3012/3212
		3425
 
Some of the drives successfully tested by Adaptec
Seagate		ST-238		Priam(Vertex)	V150
						V170
Rodime		R0352
		R0202E		Syquest		SQ319
		R0203E				SQ357
		R0204E
				Tulin		TL226
Tandon		TM502				TL326
		TM755				TL240
						TL340
Microscience	HH-325
				Toshiba		MK56FA
Miniscribe	3425
				Micro Storage	MS212
NEC		3126
		5126		Lapine		TITAN
Mitsubishi	MR522		Okidata		OD526
						OD549
=============== end of clipping ==============================================
 
------------ Responses follow:
 
I am using the ompti controller in my AT&T PC6300. I have a half height
(originally 10 meg, now 16) hard disk and a hard card (originally 20meg, now
32) connected to the ompti controller giving me a total of 48 meg.
I have only used it with MSDOS (it works with no problems for m) so I can't
help you with your MINIX question.
 
              Vern Bradner ihnp4!killer!vxb
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In article <1083@ethos.UUCP> you write:
>
>I just read about the RLL (Run Length Limited) controlers in the
>Febuary issue of Computer Shoper.  It seems almost too good to be
>true.  Has anyone tried these controlers that could report on their
>performance/compatibility?  And the big question, will it work with
>MINIX?
 
 
   I bought an Adaptec 2,7 RLL disk controller and a Miniscribe 20 meg
hard disk from CompuAdd in Texas (where else).  I installed it in an
IBM PC (a PC-2).  It works great.  I got approximately 31 megabytes from
the 20 meg drive.  It's a bit louder than other drives, but it still is
great.  It cost less than $100 more than the average 20 meg drive.  My
only problem is finding a supplier who will sell me a RLL compatible drive
without the RLL controller.  I could really use another 30 megs.
If you find a supplier willing to sell disk drives separately, let me know!
 
Thanks
 
Chuck Conway, St. Joseph's University
{bpa|burdvax|princeton|allegra}!sjuvax!cc743805   cc743805@sjuvax.UUCP
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I am currently using the Adaptec RLL controller with a Seagate
ST238 drive (resulting in a 30-meg capacity) on my BBS.  It's been up
24 hours a day for about 6 months now; so far so good.  I did have
one scare where errors seemed to appear.  Don't know what was wrong,
but a low-level reformat cured the problem, and it hasn't resurfaced.
 
I know that some people have success, and some failure, running this
controller with the ST225 20-meg drives to get 30 meg.
 
David Dyer-Bennet
Usenet: ...viper!ddb
 
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        I have been using RLL controllers on PCs and ATs since ADAPTEC
        introduced the units.  I have had great success with them.  However
        be forewarned about the following.
 
 
                1> Your drive must be RLL certified.  If it is not you
                WILL!!!!! lose your data after a while.
 
                2> Currentyl MICROPORT UNIX does not support RLL, but
                I've heard that they will.
 
                3> XENIX V supposedly supports the RLL controllers, but
                   I'm still waiting to get the new drivers.
 
                4> DOS works with no problem.
 
                5> The controller cards respond to different commands
                   than the standard controller (XT or AT type) controllers.
 
                6> Seagate drives except for the ST238 are NOT RLL certified
                   Tulin models TL226, TL240, TL326 and TL340 are
                        ceritified. Lapine makes 30 meg certified drives.
 
                7>  ERLL (enhance RLL) is just around the corner and will
                    work with most plated media drives and RLL certified
                        drives.  That means that high end drives can gain
                        about 80 to 100% increase in capacity.  The draw
                        back is that ERLL controllers are about $500-$600.
Tom Giacchi
ihnp4!tarpon!tom -or- allegra!tarpon!tom
 
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