[comp.sys.ibm.pc] NEC Multisync "GB-1" video card

wtm@neoucom.UUCP (03/05/87)

Hi group,

	I'd be interested in hearing comments from anybody that's
encountered with the GB-1.  I'm doing the dog work for a friend
that was given the beast to review for a magazine that comes out
once a week on newspaper that will remain nameless.

	In short the NEC Multisync GB-1 appears that it is supposed
to be identical to the Tseng Labs Eva-480.  Everything is laid out
in the same place on the NEC and Tseng boards.  The included
software is the same, except the Word Eva-480 has been changed to
GB-1.

	The problem is that I can't get the dag-gone GB-1 to do
anything, except for text and lowly old CGA emulation.  Well, I
have been able to get the Included Dr. Halo II to work O.K. in what
appears to be EGA mode.  Notable packages that do not work are:
PC-Paint Plus, GEM, and Windows 1.03, even when used with the
NEC/Tseng supplied drivers.

	When I popped the Eva-480 into the computer that had
formerly contained the GB-1, all the above mentioned software ran
just fine.  Hmmmm, I wonder...  Time to take a look at the GB-1 to
see if something looks funny with the board itself.

	Well I scurtinize the GB-1 for a while and note that the
board is silk-screened "4464" next to the soldered-in RAM chips.
The chips themselves are marked "4164".  I take out a GB-1 that
came in around Christmas and note the same discrepency in
numbering.  I look at the Eva, and lo, its chips agree with the
silkscreened designation "4464".

	Now, I take it that the 4464s are 64K*4 bit chips, while
the 4164s are 64K * 1 bit chips.  I infer that the NEC board has
only 1/4 the memory it should have, which could explain why it
doesn't work worth shoot.  One of the NEC cards was dated some time
in late Nov., while the other was stamped "Dec 16, '86".

	I want to get this right since, it could get some wide
circulation.  If they goofed up, it looks like they did so for
quite a while.  So far, calls to NEC haven't elicited anything
beyond "So-and-so will call you back..."  To me, that seems like a
tacit acknowledgement that they have a problem, as if I was wrong,
I'm sure they would be quick to set the facts straight before bad
press got around.

  --Bill

Bill Mayhew
NEOUCOM
email:  wtm@neoucom.UUCP        phone:  216-325-2511

wtm@neoucom.UUCP (03/06/87)

I wrote an article complaining about having a lot of problems with
a NEC GB-1 EGA-compatible graphics board.  Closer inspection
revealed that the ram chips really were 64K * 4 bits.  The type
designation was actually 41-464, a numbering methodology that could
be easily confused.

The incompatibility problem turned out to be in the ROM bios that
was supplied by Tseng Labs.  Interestingly, the GB-1 was able to
run most graphics programs in a PC-Designs AT clone machine.  Tseng
Labs sent us a replacement BIOS ROM dated 1-6-1987, which allowed
windows and and EGA-paint to run on all our clone machines.

I'm not sure how one would obtain a recent EGA BIOS rom for the
GB-1 directly from NEC, as they have yet to return our calls.
Tseng is obviously not in the habit of providing customer support
for NEC!!, nor should they be.

The only program that I can not get to run correctly is Graph In
The Box, which will only display in CGA mode, even if set for EGA.

--Bill