[comp.sys.ibm.pc] Of mice and men...

rjd@nancy.UUCP (05/21/87)

A question for the floor:

In the next few weeks, I am going to order a mouse for my IBM XT. And
I need some info:

I have heard from a number of sources that bus driven mice are on the
way out, and some software will no longer support them. Is this true?
Are there any advantages to bus mice?

What about serial mice? Do I have to use a serial mouse with the
card they provide, or can I just plug it into my second serial port?
Any advantage/disadvantage to serial mice?

My only constriction is $$$: I do not want to spend more than $130 mail order
for the mouse. Also, my system is down to one long slot and one short
slot - I've been adding things to it like crazy lately ;-) - and I would
rather not use either of these up *if possible.* (That's why I want
to know if I can plug a serial mouse into my existing serial ports.)

Also, any recommendation of one brand over another would be greatly 
aprreciated.

Thanks in advance...



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clarkr@tekecs.TEK.COM (Clark Rasmussen) (05/23/87)

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In article <15694@brunix.UUCP> rjd@brunix.UUCP (Rob DeMillo) writes:

>What about serial mice? Do I have to use a serial mouse with the
>card they provide, or can I just plug it into my second serial port?
>Any advantage/disadvantage to serial mice?

There are no serial mice of which I am aware that require their own card.
We are currently using a MS Serial Mouse on an XT and a Logitech serial mouse 
on an AT and both plug into exitsting serial ports.  The Logitech is MS 
compatible, has better documentation, and a third button that is user-
definable.  Both are available mail order for about your budget ($130).

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mellon@mit-prep.ARPA (Ted Lemon) (05/25/87)

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The mouse systems mouse (I think) can be purchased with a special
serial card which uses one of the interrupts on the second 8259
interrupt controller on the IBM AT, thus allowing you to have a mouse
and still have COM1 and COM2 available for other devious purposes.

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todd@uhccux.UUCP (05/25/87)

In article <15694@brunix.UUCP> rjd@brunix.UUCP (Rob DeMillo) writes:
>What about serial mice? Do I have to use a serial mouse with the
>card they provide, or can I just plug it into my second serial port?
>Any advantage/disadvantage to serial mice?

The two most popular serial mice (mouses?), Mouse Systems Optical Mouse and
Microsoft Mouse, both work fine off of any generic serial port.
The latest version of the Mouse Systems mouse no longer requires a separate
power supply.

>My only constriction is $$$: I do not want to spend more than $130 mail order

I bought the old version of Mouse Systems mouse ($200 list) for $120 from
PC Connection about 8 months ago.  Since the list price of the new
Mouse Systems mouse has dropped to about $160, you might get an even
better deal than I did.

>rather not use either of these up *if possible.* (That's why I want
>to know if I can plug a serial mouse into my existing serial ports.)

Yeah....I only have room for one serial port in my machine!  The mouse
Systems mouse works just fine.  I had to throw an A-B switch on my
serial port to share it with my modem...

>Also, any recommendation of one brand over another would be greatly 
>aprreciated.

I prefer optical mice because: (1) they track better than mechanical
mice, (2) you can put the pad on your lap easily to use the mouse
from that position, (3) you don't need to clean the thing.  So,
I recommend the Mouse Systems Mouse.

I must admit though that the new Microsoft Mouse "feels" better in my
hand.  They did a nice job in doing an ergonomic redesign on their mouse.

To those who will say that mechanical mice are better because they don't
require a special surface, I remind you to go look in any computer
store and see how many "pads" are being sold for the Mac mouse and the
Microsoft Mouse.  Optimal surfaces are hard to find....todd

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