psc@lznv.ATT.COM (Paul S. R. Chisholm) (11/11/87)
In article <397NU113738@NDSUVM1>, NU113738@NDSUVM1.BITNET writes: > Also, does anyone know if bordland has a modula-2 compiler ? I asked > on the other modula-2 conf and no one has responded. Borland sold a CP/M-80 Modula-2 compiler. This was their second language (after Turbo Pascal 3.0, but before Basic, Prolog, or C). Jeff Duntemann played with it; Steve Ciarcia sold it with some graphics code for one of his projects. I *never* heard of an MS-DOS version. Most of the programmers who want to "step up" from Pascal now program in C. I understand the reasons that's good, and the reasons that's bad. I don't know if Borland still sells *any* CP/M-80 products. -Paul S. R. Chisholm, {ihnp4,cbosgd,allegra,rutgers}!mtune!lznv!psc AT&T Mail !psrchisholm, Internet psc@lznv.att.com I'm not speaking for my employer, I'm just speaking my mind.
sipples@husc2.UUCP (sipples) (11/12/87)
>I don't know if Borland still sells *any* CP/M-80 products.
Turbo Pascal for Apple CP/M.abp@j.cc.purdue.edu (Jeffrey J Wieland) (11/13/87)
In article <1184@lznv.ATT.COM> psc@lznv.ATT.COM (Paul S. R. Chisholm) writes: >In article <397NU113738@NDSUVM1>, NU113738@NDSUVM1.BITNET writes: >> Also, does anyone know if bordland has a modula-2 compiler ? I asked >> on the other modula-2 conf and no one has responded. I tried to respond, but my group permissions were messed up at the time. >Borland sold a CP/M-80 Modula-2 compiler. This was their second >language (after Turbo Pascal 3.0, but before Basic, Prolog, or C). Turbo Modula-2 for CP/M-80 and compatibles (Z-System, etc) is available from two sources: Echelon: Generic Z80 version, ~$90.00 MicroMint: Hitachi 64180 version, lets you move code into different segments, breaking the 64k barrier, although you data still has to fit in that first 64K. ~90.00. If you have an SB-180, there is very powerful graphics package for the GT-180 hi-res color graphics controller. (Now if I could just figure out how to hook one these up to my Kaypro 2X {:-)). >I *never* heard of an MS-DOS version. Most of the programmers who want >to "step up" from Pascal now program in C. I understand the reasons >that's good, and the reasons that's bad. From what I am hearing TP4.0, it *almost is* M-2. But of course, no CP/M version. It's too bad Borland, Echelon, & MicroMint couldn't have worked some sort upgrade setup for current Turbo Pascal owners. $90 is kinda steep for us college students. Jeff Wieland abp@j.cc.purdue.edu
strac01@rocky.oswego.edu (Doug Eckersley) (11/15/87)
I have heard rumor that Turbo M2 for MS-DOS is coming soon. Personally, I hope so. I have also heard that TP 4.0, now released, has language features similar to M2. This is all I can tell you... ------------------------------------------------------------
bird@kksys.UUCP (0000-Mike Bird) (11/17/87)
In article <524@oswego.UUCP> strac01@rocky.oswego.edu.UUCP (Doug Eckersley) writes: >I have heard rumor that Turbo M2 for MS-DOS is coming soon. Personally, I hope >so. I have also heard that TP 4.0, now released, has language features >similar to M2. This is all I can tell you... What I was told was that Borland believes the wave of the future is C. Therefore, it was not going to invest any more time and energy into Modula-2 when it has Pascal. They brought the one they were working on up to marketability, but are selling it through a 3rd party, for CP/M-80 systems only, and will not be releasing a 68K or x86 version. Of course, that's only what I've heard.... -- ================================================================================ Mike Bird (No, I don't work for K&K systems) Mail paths: bird@kksys.UUCP -or- Give me credit for coming up with my own opinions. ...rutgers!meccts!kksys!bird Void where prohibited by law.
jec@nesac2.UUCP (John Carter ATLN SADM) (11/18/87)
In article <524@oswego.UUCP>, strac01@rocky.oswego.edu (Doug Eckersley) writes: > I have heard rumor that Turbo M2 for MS-DOS is coming soon. Personally, I hope > so. I have also heard that TP 4.0, now released, has language features > similar to M2. This is all I can tell you... > Public Brand Software (1-800-IBM-DISK) has a modula-2 compiler for $5. Don't know the quality, but it their disk "ML25.0" and requires 512K, with a hard disk recommended. Wirth's book on modula-2, is also recommended as supporting documentation . No interests served here except the net - I've never purchased anything from these people, just got their catalog in the mail this week. -- USnail: John Carter, AT&T, Atlanta RWC, 3001 Cobb Parkway, Atlanta GA 30339 Video: ...ihnp4!cuea2!ltuxa!ll1!nesac2!jec Voice: 404+951-4642 (The above views are my very own. How dare you question them? :-)
jamesd@percival.UUCP (James Deibele) (11/19/87)
In article <1184@lznv.ATT.COM> psc@lznv.ATT.COM (Paul S. R. Chisholm) writes: > >Borland sold a CP/M-80 Modula-2 compiler. >[...] >I *never* heard of an MS-DOS version. [...] Que Books, in their Fall 1987 Catalog has "Using Turbo Modula-2" by Tom Rugg and Phil Feldman announced as coming out in the winter of 1987-88. Quote from catalog: "Borland's new DOS version of Turbo Modula-2 is sure to give an ac- celerated boost to the already popular language, Modula-2." This book had been previously announced in the spring/summer catalog, and (I think) catalogs before that, so Borland is having a little trouble making up their minds. -- James S. Deibele jamesd@qiclab or jamesd@percival TECHBooks: The Computer Book Specialists (800) TECH-BKS 3646 SE Division Portland, OR 97202 (503) 238-1005 TECHBooks One BBS (#1:105/4.0); 3/12/24 (503) 760-1473