agv@s.cc.purdue.edu (Dave Murrell) (01/09/88)
Well, here is (at last) a summary of the responses I received concerning Borland's Quattro. MUCH thanks to all who took the time to reply -- your evaluations were indispensable. I found the evidence convincing enough to go ahead and purchase Quattro and I would add my praises to the product as well. As a disclaimer, I have no connections with Borland whatsoever. The following summary is distilled purely from responses offered by others (whose names I have chosen not to disclose, so as to shield them from e-harassment). With this posting, I "wash my hands" of the subject -- meaning I do not wish to engage in long e-mail or net debates concerning these contents. I will, however, provide clarification if I feel the need is justified. =============================================================== The following are notable replies I received which reviewed Borland's Quattro spreadsheet package. I make no guarantees as to their accuracy. I have edited these to save space while retaining the gist of their content. * "...I had been using 1-2-3 with HAL, and Quattro seems like a perfectly functional replacement.... Quattro draws much nicer graphs, runs a lot faster, has much more usable menus, macros, etc. etc., and is 100% compatible with 1-2-3. I love it. I should say that I'm currently an MBA student at [a notable university] and I use it a whole lot for MBA case analysis stuff - everything from financial analysis, to pro-formas, market analysis, and even statistical process control charts. All of my 1-2-3 spreadsheets work fine. I've used it on both an AT&T 6300+ under Simultask, and on a Leading Edge Model D with Hercules graphics. I highly recommend it!" * "...As far as its performance, I'm impressed. I have been using Lotus 1-2-3 Version 1a for about 3 years for home finance and small business applications (invoices, tally sheets, load amortizations, checkbook register and balancing, and others). The graphics are superb (on a VGA), the speed is noticably faster, the interface is intuitive and familiar enough to be readily usable. It has two modes of operation; normal, and 123-compatible. Some of my more complex 123 templates (I do contract template and code writing as a consultant on the side) barfed in normal mode, but worked fine in 123-compatible mode. The difference was that some of the jobs to be done (like printing a range) required a different set of keystrokes to activate when in normal mode. In compatible mode, no problem.... Its two drawback both relate to size. Quattro takes more memory to run than L123, so when I have my TSR stuff loaded, I have less room for spreadsheet. Also, it takes up more room on disk than L123 (especially if you've gone through the L123 files and deleted the conversion programs and superfluous drivers).... Haven't found any problem to complain about yet. It even had a hi-res driver for my Epson LQ-800 24-pin printer, which produces near-laser quality graph prints when pushed hard enough. Quattro pushed it!" * "I just received a copy of Quattro and installed it. My initial impression is that I will stick to LOTUS. There are nice features such as the customization of the menus, the improved graphs, and some additional '@' functions. It did read in my current LOTUS files, but I found at least a couple of cases where I had to change some macros to make it work. Also it had the same (or slower) speed in doing the recalculations of the worksheet. (Now I know all the arguments about which 'benchmark' is used). The LOTUS compatible mode is slower in responding to command than 1-2-3 and the macros executed slower. Overall, if you don't already use 1-2-3, then Quattro is a good investment. If you already have a large investment in exising worksheets, you might want to stick with 1-2-3." * "I received mine on Friday, 11 Dec and it looks like a very nice package. The main disappointment I have after very limited use is that it uses a lot (~165K) more memory than 123. That may not be too surprising, considering all the extra features, but it does limit the size of the spreadsheet more than 123, even with an EMS card. The special offer flyer I received from Borland indicated that Quattro required a system with at least 384K of memory, but the manual that comes with the program states that it requires at least 512K. I have a 640K system and load Superkey and Sidekick with MS-DOS 3.2. When I run Quattro, the Default Hardware screen (cf. 123 /WS screen) tells me I have a little over 80K of conventional memory available for the spreadsheet.... I have encountered only two 'problems' so far. Quattro does not recognize the 8087 on my Leading Edge, Model M (123 and other programs do). It does recognize the 8087 on one IBM PC I tried. The other 'problem' (feature??) is that the PR indicator for protected cells disappears if the cell has other than the global format. I think this is a (noncritical) bug, since PR shows for non-specially formatted cells and the U indicator shows for all cells. One other difference I noticed is one I did not like at first, but after some thought I think I like better than 123. In 123 unprotected cells show up with bright attribute on a monochrome TTL monitor. In Quattro, these cells show up with the underscore attribute. It took me a little while to get used to this, but the advantage is that one can see *all* cells which are unprotected rather than only the ones which have entries. This is also probably more intuitive, since usually one uses unprotected cells for data entry, and the blank underscores seem to be a natural metafor for indicating places to make entries." * "...I've used 1-2-3 since Jan 1984, and have used 20/20, Multiplan, Supercalc and a few others. I think Quattro is fantastic and will probably never use 1-2-3 again.... In one sense Quattro is different, in another the same. One can read a 1-2-3 *.wk1 file directly into Quattro without any conversion. In fact, a large file that I used for testing Quattro (3000 rows by 8 columns) actually read in to Quattro as a *.wk1 file in about 1/3 the time it took 1-2-3 to read it. Now as if that alone wasn't enough, most all 1-2-3 macros work as is in Quattro. Finally, the real plus, Quattro has a soft user interface which allows the user to elect a menuing structure that totally replicates 1-2-3, or you can use Borland's menus, or even write your own. Incidentally, these are slick, pop-down menus that also remember what you did last and are very intelligent.... Here's a few of its more exciting features: - menu command short-cuts - 100 built-in functions; most are just like 1-2-3's - Support for virtually any graphics board and it's all automatic (including IBM's new VGA) - Graphics printing capability is in the main program - Support for Postscript output - Keystroke record mode for automatic macro creation - unlimited macros - single-step macro debugging - matrix operations The graphics in Quattro are astonishing in both speed and range of capabilities. You can easily change fonts colors and hatching patterns on-the-fly and instantly view the results. Most importantly it's a real speed demon. My tests show about a 200% improvement over 1-2-3. Everything is fast. You can even start it up right out of the box by just copying files to a directory and typing 'Q'; no installation routine is required. It's filled with special features that you have to add to other spreadsheets, like the auto-record macros, an intelligent recalc that only recalcs changed cells, built-in sideways printing, and confirmation on commands that might affect your data, like reminding you to save before exiting. Finally, one of the best feature is it's transaction log. Once turned on, you can literally pull out the power cord, then restart the machine, read in your 'unsaved' worksheet, and THEN invoke the 'transcript' facility and re-create any lost operations from the last time you saved the spreadsheet. Of course, this also has an 'undo' facility which is quite handy in itself." * "It's a little early, I just got my copy the middle of last week, but Quattro get a few pluses already -- (1) its lots cheaper, (2) you can change drivers on the fly, (3) I love the Framework style 'popup' menus, and (4) it seems to be slightly faster on the spreadsheets I have tried it on (all relatively simple compared to the ones accounting use at work). So far I haven't seen any negatives, though I think the auto-configuration has the potential to screw up in a machine with novel video or printer setups. On the other hand, I didn't do anything to bring up my EGA/Epson system other than tell it I have a 200 line monitor (it should have been able to figure that out too!)." -- ==================================================================== ARPA: agv@s.cc.purdue.edu | USPS: Purdue University Computing Center UUCP: cc.purdue.edu!agv | Math Sciences Building BITNET: murrell@purccvm | West Lafayette, IN. 47906