[comp.sys.ibm.pc] What are these?

dbraun@cadev4.intel.com (Doug Braun ~) (01/06/88)

I'm confused.  What is the difference between a quad density and a HD
drive?  How many tracks, etc., do they have?  Which machines
use them?  (I assume the AT uses a quad density),

Stupidly,



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wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) (01/08/88)

Typical 5-1/4 inch disk designations:

DD (Double Density):  360K formatted capacity (when both sides are
  used).  40 tracks, 9 sectors/track.  IBM also supports 160K/320K
  8 sector/track formats.

4D (Quad Density):  720K formatted capacity.  80 tracks, 9 sectors
  per track.

HD  (High Density):  (used on PC/AT) 1.2 meg fromatted capacity.
  80 tracks, 15 sectors/track.


A High Density drive can be made to read any of the above formats,
and usually write them.  High Density disks formatted to 360K or
720K can be *read* but *not written* to reliably by the other drive
types.  HD diskettes are sort of like trying to use metal cassete
tapes in a regular cassette player.

The DEC Rainbow also has a bastard 400K single-sided disk format
that uses 4D media.


--Bill

Usenet_area_"Cs.I.Pc"@watmath.waterloo.edu (01/09/88)

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Subject: Re: What are these?
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Typical 5-1/4 inch disk designations:

DD (Double Density):  360K formatted capacity (when both sides are
  used).  40 tracks, 9 sectors/track.  IBM also supports 160K/320K
  8 sector/track formats.

4D (Quad Density):  720K formatted capacity.  80 tracks, 9 sectors
  per track.

HD  (High Density):  (used on PC/AT) 1.2 meg fromatted capacity.
  80 tracks, 15 sectors/track.


A High Density drive can be made to read any of the above formats,
and usually write them.  High Density disks formatted to 360K or
720K can be *read* but *not written* to reliably by the other drive
types.  HD diskettes are sort of like trying to use metal cassete
tapes in a regular cassette player.

The DEC Rainbow also has a bastard 400K single-sided disk format
that uses 4D media.


--Bill

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Ralf.Brown@B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU (01/14/88)

In article <675@bucket.UUCP>, leonard@bucket.UUCP (Leonard Erickson) writes:
}Single density disks (which do exist in 5.25!) use FM recording. This is
}data-bit clock-bit data-bit.....
}
}Double density disks (and QD & HD & "normal" hard disks) use MFM. This
}uses some sort of scheme (I forget the details) to make the data
}"self-clocking" and thus eliminate the clock-bits. This enabled twice
}the data density, thus the term double-density. 

MFM is really RLL 1,3 (i.e. at most 3 zero or one bits in a row).  The RLL
controllers use RLL 2,7 (at most 7 identical bits in a row), and ARLL uses
(I think) RLL 3,9.

}For what it is worth, if the PC had supported single density disks
}(which would take a different controller chip!) it would have had

Actually, the controller is perfectly capable of handling single
density.  One of the bits in the command code that is sent to the 
controller indicates whether to use FM or MFM.

}Leonard Erickson                ...!tektronix!reed!percival!bucket!leonard
}CIS: [70465,203]

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