wcs@ho95e.ATT.COM (Bill.Stewart) (12/23/87)
I'm looking for a high-resolution graphics board for a PC. I need at least 1024x1024 pixels (1280 would be much better), and at least 8 bitplanes (again, more is better). I'm planning to use it on an AT&T 6386, which has a PC-bus and AT-bus, running UNIX and X-windows. What's out there? Bell Technologies makes a nice board, but the color version only does 1024x768. -- # Thanks; # Bill Stewart, AT&T Bell Labs 2G218, Holmdel NJ 1-201-949-0705 ihnp4!ho95c!wcs
gp@picuxa.UUCP (Greg Pasquariello X1190) (12/23/87)
In article <1936@ho95e.ATT.COM>, wcs@ho95e.ATT.COM (Bill.Stewart) writes: > I'm looking for a high-resolution graphics board for a PC. > I need at least 1024x1024 pixels (1280 would be much better), > and at least 8 bitplanes (again, more is better). > > I'm planning to use it on an AT&T 6386, which has a PC-bus and AT-bus, > running UNIX and X-windows. Me too me too me too me too! I have an identical setup to the one described above, and I need an identical board and/or monitor. Thanks.
stephen@tolerant.UUCP (Yeung) (12/25/87)
in article <429@picuxa.UUCP>, gp@picuxa.UUCP (Greg Pasquariello X1190) says: > Xref: tolerant comp.sys.ibm.pc:9622 comp.graphics:1282 comp.periphs:558 misc.wanted:1893 > In article <1936@ho95e.ATT.COM>, wcs@ho95e.ATT.COM (Bill.Stewart) writes: >> I'm looking for a high-resolution graphics board for a PC. >> I need at least 1024x1024 pixels (1280 would be much better), >> and at least 8 bitplanes (again, more is better). >> >> I'm planning to use it on an AT&T 6386, which has a PC-bus and AT-bus, >> running UNIX and X-windows. > > Me too me too me too me too! I have an identical setup > to the one described above, and I need an identical board and/or > monitor. Thanks. Everex has a new board called UltraGraphics coming out (Model EV-235). I don't know whether this board will fit your need or not; but the followings are what Everex advertised: Big Screen ASIC View the "Big Picture" on a 150 dpi large screen monitor in 1664x1200 resolution using PC/XT/AT and compatible machines. The Ultragraphics, with an onboard Everex ASIC, controls Princeton LM301 and the Moniterm 19 inch monitor, ideal for Desktop Publishing. Compatible With Others Ultragraphics co-exsits with PGA, EGA, CGA, MDA, and Hercules graphics adapters for multiple screen display capability. The board contains its own video BIOS, making it a stand-alone card and fully compatible at the BIOS level. Turbo Features The Everex Ultragraphics beats other adapters in speed by 4:1. Instead of a single byte transfer in others, the Ultragraphics transfers 4 bytes at a time to update screen changes at 4 times the normal rate in 1664x1200 resolution. Additional features include a 12.5ms screen clear, or fill-with-ones for reverse video, and fast scrolling that won't keep you waiting. Bank Switched The display is enhanced by 512KB onboard memory. The memory is bank switched through a 16KB window in reserved memory. The window is intelligently placed by Ultragraphic's own BIOS so that it will not conflict with other address specific installed hardware drivers. WYSIWYG Clarity You can now achieve WYSIWYG clarity with 150 dpi monitors. Drivers for Microsoft Windows and AutoCAD are also included for extra convenience. Any one interested could email me and I'll find out more (e.g. price). Stephen Au-Yeung pyramid!tolerant!stephen
srinivas@ut-sally.UUCP (Srini Sankaran) (12/28/87)
> In article <1936@ho95e.ATT.COM>, wcs@ho95e.ATT.COM (Bill.Stewart) writes: > I'm looking for a high-resolution graphics board for a PC. > I need at least 1024x1024 pixels (1280 would be much better), > and at least 8 bitplanes (again, more is better). > >In article <429@picuxa.UUCP>, gp@picuxa.UUCP (Greg Pasquariello X1190) writes: > Me too me too me too me too! I have an identical setup > to the one described above, and I need an identical board and/or > monitor. Thanks. > In article <1057@tolerant.UUCP> stephen@tolerant.UUCP (Yeung) writes: > Everex has a new board called UltraGraphics coming out (Model EV-235). Call Texas Instruments and ask them to mail you a copy of "TMS 34010 - Third Party Guide". You can find about five to ten boards which match your requirements. -srini. srinivas@sally.utexas.edu
rusty@cadnetix.UUCP (Rusty) (12/30/87)
In article <9965@ut-sally.UUCP> srinivas@ut-sally.UUCP (Srini Sankaran) writes: > >> In article <1936@ho95e.ATT.COM>, wcs@ho95e.ATT.COM (Bill.Stewart) writes: >> I'm looking for a high-resolution graphics board for a PC. ..... >Call Texas Instruments ... "TMS 34010 - >Third Party Guide". Also check out the Jan-Feb 1988 Micro Cornucopia magazine (issue #39) 'Designing a PC workstation board around the TMS34010' by pres. of PC Tech, P.O. Box 128, Lake City MN. They make a hires board, and the article gives some info about theirs and others in general -- Rusty Carruth UUCP: cadnetix!rusty Disclaimer: oops, out Cadnetix Corporation hao!ico!cadnetix!rusty of room! 5775 Central Avenue MaBell: 303-444-8075 x296 <--- new extension.... Boulder, CO 80301 --> note new address: have permuted from 5757 to 5775 <--
mithomas@bsu-cs.UUCP (Michael Thomas Niehaus) (01/07/88)
AT&T Indianapolis counterpart makes a spectacular video board called
Vista. It offers 1024x1024 graphics with an enormous number of colors
that can be displayed on screen. I think that it can handle 2Kx2K in more
than eight colors. It is a 32 bit graphic board, has a very powerful
(and expensive) TIPS program that does it proud, and can accept video
sources from many sources, including video cameras and recorders.
If you would like more information, it is reviewed in PC Magazine's BEST OF
'87 issue (December ?).
Michael Niehaus
UUCP: <Backbones>!{uunet,pur-ee,iuvax}!bsu-cs!mithomastim@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu (Timothy L. Kay) (01/08/88)
In article mithomas@bsu-cs.UUCP (Michael Thomas Niehaus) writes: >AT&T Indianapolis counterpart makes a spectacular video board called >Vista. It offers 1024x1024 graphics with an enormous number of colors >that can be displayed on screen. I think that it can handle 2Kx2K in more >than eight colors. It is a 32 bit graphic board, has a very powerful >(and expensive) TIPS program that does it proud, and can accept video >sources from many sources, including video cameras and recorders. With regard to "an enormous number of colors", this board is known as a full-color frame buffer. It offers eight bits per pixel per gun (red, green, and blue). People who do serious computer graphics (such as TV production houses) can't use any fewer colors. You can put a different color on each pixel on the screen. You need them when you want to antialias. A little more information on this board: o It lists for $6000 o You'll need a monitor at least as good as the NEC Multisync to do this board justice. o It generates video in non-standard resolutions, like 756 x 486 or 604 x 486 or 504 x 486 while the standard is either 640 x 48? or 768 x 48?. o You can't take full advantage of any frame buffer that uses the TI TMS34010 graphics chip unless you also purchase the C Compiler/Assembler package from TI. It lists for $1500. Of course, if you just want a canned paint program, then you don't need this. o TIPS lists for $2500, I think There are other boards that have similar or better features. They are also less expensive.
papke@dicome.UUCP (Kurt Papke) (01/11/88)
In article <5110@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> tim@cit-vax.UUCP (Timothy L. Kay) writes: >In article mithomas@bsu-cs.UUCP (Michael Thomas Niehaus) writes: >>AT&T Indianapolis counterpart makes a spectacular video board called >>Vista. It offers 1024x1024 graphics with an enormous number of colors >>that can be displayed on screen. > >A little more information on this board: > > o It lists for $6000 > o You'll need a monitor at least as good as the NEC > Multisync to do this board justice. True. We use the Conrac 7241 which has a slide switch on the back to select sweep frequencies as it is not a "smart sync" monitor, but it can display the full 1024x768 that the Vista is capable of. > o It generates video in non-standard resolutions, like > 756 x 486 > or 604 x 486 > or 504 x 486 > while the standard is either 640 x 48? or 768 x 48?. True, true. I also had it set up for a while to do 1024x486 > o You can't take full advantage of any frame buffer that > uses the TI TMS34010 graphics chip unless you also > purchase the C Compiler/Assembler package from TI. > It lists for $1500. Of course, if you just want a > canned paint program, then you don't need this. You can take FULL advantage of the frame buffer without touching the TMS34010, as it is completely programmable from the host processor. You just cannot take advantage of the graphics instructions of the 34010, which in my opinion are completely useless for full-color graphics. Be careful to order the development kit from Truevision - they have modified the debugger and the loader to work with the Vista configuration. The kit from TI will allow you to compile, but you will have no way of getting code into the machine w/o writing your own loader. The C compiler is PCC with a 34010 code generator back end (blech). My experience has been that identical C code will run 5-6 times faster on a 386 using the Microsoft compiler than on the 34010 using PCC. > o TIPS lists for $2500, I think > >There are other boards that have similar or better features. They >are also less expensive. Like what ? I would like to hear from any other Vista developers out there. Kurt Papke
stephan@kontron.UUCP (Stephan W. Wendl) (01/14/88)
> Xref: kontron comp.sys.ibm.pc:10188 comp.graphics:1433 > Summary: Truevision Targa board > > In article <5110@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> tim@cit-vax.UUCP (Timothy L. Kay) writes: >>In article mithomas@bsu-cs.UUCP (Michael Thomas Niehaus) writes: >>>AT&T Indianapolis counterpart makes a spectacular video board called >>>Vista. It offers 1024x1024 graphics with an enormous number of colors >>>that can be displayed on screen. >> >>A little more information on this board: >> >> o It lists for $6000 >> o You'll need a monitor at least as good as the NEC >> Multisync to do this board justice. > That is rather nice. But the price might be quite high and the performance of a TMS34010 is not that exciting. People might have heard about the QPDM Chip from AMD. There are companies out there that provide excellent graphic controller boards for AT style computer that use this chip. They are available in resolution from 1280x1024x8 downwards. Pricing is $4000 and downwards. They come with some drivers for known CAD programs and libraries to write code immediately. For more information call 1-800-227-8834 or 1-415-965-7020
wallace@whutt.UUCP (WALLACE) (01/15/88)
In article <5110@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> tim@cit-vax.UUCP (Timothy L. Kay) writes: >In article mithomas@bsu-cs.UUCP (Michael Thomas Niehaus) writes: >>AT&T Indianapolis counterpart makes a spectacular video board called >>Vista. It offers 1024x1024 graphics with an enormous number of colors >>that can be displayed on screen. I think that it can handle 2Kx2K in more >>than eight colors. It is a 32 bit graphic board, has a very powerful >>(and expensive) TIPS program that does it proud, and can accept video >>sources from many sources, including video cameras and recorders. > >With regard to "an enormous number of colors", this board is known >as a full-color frame buffer. It offers eight bits per pixel per >gun (red, green, and blue). People who do serious computer graphics >(such as TV production houses) can't use any fewer colors. You can >put a different color on each pixel on the screen. You need them >when you want to antialias. > >A little more information on this board: > > o It lists for $6000 I was able to get it for $5400. > o You'll need a monitor at least as good as the NEC > Multisync to do this board justice. After much research... Microvitec makes a 19" color monitor Model 1019/LPTV (Long Persistence phosphor monitor tuned for Targa and Vista). Resolution is 1365x860 (max) and it has inputs for analog RGB and 4 or 6 bit TTL. Price is around $2200. In fact, there's an outfit in Indianapolis called Electronic Sales and Engineering that sells this exclusively for Microvitec (based in Atlanta, GA), for Truevision board buyers. > o It generates video in non-standard resolutions, like > 756 x 486 > or 604 x 486 > or 504 x 486 > while the standard is either 640 x 48? or 768 x 48?. Wrong. You can set the video resolution to a variety of settings (software selectable), including 640x486 and 768x486. It's very flexible. > o You can't take full advantage of any frame buffer that > uses the TI TMS34010 graphics chip unless you also > purchase the C Compiler/Assembler package from TI. > It lists for $1500. Of course, if you just want a > canned paint program, then you don't need this. Wrong again. The complete TI TMS34010 software development kit, including the C compiler, assembler, linker, etc. is included in the price. Within the next month or so, all buyers past, present, and future, will receive at no extra charge, an extensive C-callable library of VISTA utilities for development. > o TIPS lists for $2500, I think Unless the VISTA version has just gone way up, TIPS should only cost $1295. > >There are other boards that have similar or better features. They >are also less expensive. Ah maybe, but how many with this much memory, local power, and the able to frame grab, genlock, and do all sort of fancy memory accessing and channeling of data,...and even add up to a total of 10 Mb of local memory for image data and 34010 code and data? It really does apply here...you get what you pay for! Fellow VISTA users keep in touch...I'm using mine on a AT&T 6310 and 6386. Bruce A. Wallace AT&T Bell Labs Murray Hill, N.J. ihnp4!whutt!wallace