dgw@mimsy.UUCP (Daniel Winkowski) (02/02/88)
I am looking for preferably commercial packages that support many of the common unix(tm) utilities in DOS. A new shell (ksh, csh or sh) would also be terrific. One such example package is the MKS toolkit from Mortice Kern Systems. Does anyone have experience with this package? better ones? Daniel G. Winkowski (301) 688-5288 ARPA & CSNet: dgw@mimsy.umd.edu OR Winkowski@DOCKMASTER.ARPA UUCP: uunet!mimsy!dgw
rdo031@tijc02.UUCP (Rick Odle ) (02/02/88)
in article <10422@mimsy.UUCP>, dgw@mimsy.UUCP (Daniel Winkowski) says: > > I am looking for preferably commercial packages that support many of the common > unix(tm) utilities in DOS. A new shell (ksh, csh or sh) would also be terrific. > > One such example package is the MKS toolkit from Mortice Kern Systems. Does > anyone have experience with this package? better ones? > > > Daniel G. Winkowski (301) 688-5288 > ARPA & CSNet: dgw@mimsy.umd.edu OR Winkowski@DOCKMASTER.ARPA > UUCP: uunet!mimsy!dgw MKS is great. We use the many of the routines every day. The ksh that is included is excellent. We built some fairly sophisticated scripts to automatically create makefiles given a list of directories in a file that worked fine. The other really great tool in the kit is their implementation of vi, the most thorough and compatable look-alike that I've seen. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rick Odle (615) 461-2371 Texas Instruments Industrial Systems Division Johnson City, TN UUCP: mcnc!rti!tijc02!rdo031 faster uucp: mcnc!convex!smu!ti-csl!tijc02!rdo031
jcb@loral.UUCP (Jay C. Bowden) (02/04/88)
Ditto to everything good said about MKS toolkit. When I go home at night, and I can still grep, sed, awk, and vi JUST LIKE THE VAX/BSD 4.3 here at work, I realize it was the best $140 I've ever spent on PC software. Excuse the gushing, but the vi is just unbelievably good. At one time I thought, naw, no one could ever do vi right on a PC. Silly me! - Jay Bowden
romero@mind.UUCP (Antonio Romero) (02/05/88)
In article <194@tijc02.UUCP>, rdo031@tijc02.UUCP (Rick Odle ) writes: > in article <10422@mimsy.UUCP>, dgw@mimsy.UUCP (Daniel Winkowski) says: > > One such example package is the MKS toolkit from Mortice Kern Systems. Does > > anyone have experience with this package? better ones? > > Daniel G. Winkowski (301) 688-5288 > > MKS is great. We use the many of the routines every day. The ksh that > is included is excellent. > The other really great tool in the kit is their implementation > of vi, the most thorough and compatable look-alike that I've seen. A few comments here: 1) I'd like to praise most highly their implementation of awk. NICE. Saved me god knows how much time already... 2) The shell is most welcome, but getting it to work on Novell is kind of a neat trick. In fact, a number of the utilities behave really oddly on Novell networks-- ctags, pack, ls, some others. I haven't tested exhaustively, though. If anyone out there has had trouble w/ Novell and their stuff, let them know-- they seem eager to help out if they can. 3) Their VI seems to crash from time to time at the bottom of a file. Also, it includes a very unusual feature which looks a lot like Berkeley ^Z job control for suspending vi jobs. This is normally wonderful but on occasion when you restart a job the buffer has been garbaged and VI warns you to save the buffer somewhere, exit the program immediately, panic, run away, etc. On the whole, though, just about everything works really well-- most trouble I've had has been somehow related to running on Novell networks. I've also dealt with their technical support people both by e-mail and by phone, and found the company very pleasant, knowledgable, etc... Now if only their implementation of RCS is as good as the rest of their stuff... Antonio Romero romero@mind.princeton.edu