root@conexch.UUCP (Larry Dighera) (03/21/88)
In article <3903@cup.portal.com> Thyss@cup.portal.com writes: >will someone please re send dmgbbs? i see it look's pretty nice and i'm in >the lookout for a bbs program, so if the person that put it up in the first >place could re-upload it, i'd be grateful. thanks, >-- >Thyss@cup.portal.com Let me see if I understand the content of this posting correctly. Thyss wants the original poster to go through the trouble of re-posting the multi-part package s/he just recently posted. Thyss further would like all that binary code to circulate through out the world and reside in duplicate on all the machines on the net. Could this be Thyss's intent? Wouldn't it have been more courteous to have posted an email message directly to the author of DMGBBS and made arrangements to obtain a copy directly from the author or an archive site? If Thyss had done that, we wouldn't have had to read his impertinent request, and s/he wouldn't have embarrassed him/herself by suggesting that every site on the net contain two copies of the multi-hundred-kilobyte binary posting. Perhaps sysadmins of public-access sites should educate their users in the proper use of Usenet before granting them the ability to post articles? Larry Dighera -- USPS: The Consultants' Exchange, PO Box 12100, Santa Ana, CA 92712 TELE: (714) 842-6348: BBS (N81); (714) 842-5851: Xenix guest account (E71) UUCP: conexch Any ACU 2400 17148425851 ogin:-""-ogin:-""-ogin: nuucp UUCP: ...!ucbvax!ucivax!icnvax!conexch!root || ...!trwrb!ucla-an!conexch!root
mvolo@ecsvax.UUCP (Michael R. Volow) (03/22/88)
In article <221@conexch.UUCP>, root@conexch.UUCP (Larry Dighera) writes: > In article <3903@cup.portal.com> Thyss@cup.portal.com writes: > Thyss wants the original poster to go through the trouble of > re-posting the multi-part package s/he just recently posted. Thyss > > Perhaps sysadmins of public-access sites should educate their users in > the proper use of Usenet before granting them the ability to post > articles? > > Larry Dighera I agree in principle. I'm tired of seeing repostings and requests for repostings of large, programs. But I would hope that "netiquette" rather than rules would control repostings. If you missed a biggie, and don't know who posted it, ask whoever to contact you E-Mail. Then you can arrange for E-mail of, or direct USnail (via SASE) of your program. USnail may be slow, but it often beats files having to withstand the ravages of pasting together, en- & de- coding, arc- and unarc- ing. Michael Volow, M.D. Dept of Psychiatry, Durham VA Medical Center, Durham, N.C. 27705 919 286 0411 mvolo@ecsvax.UUCP
hardin@hpindda.HP.COM (John Hardin) (03/22/88)
>Thyss wants the original poster to go through the trouble of ... > >Wouldn't it have been more courteous to have posted an email message >directly to the author of DMGBBS and made arrangements to obtain a >copy directly from the author or an archive site? > >If Thyss had done that, we wouldn't have had to read his impertinent >request, and s/he wouldn't have embarrassed him/herself ... > >Perhaps sysadmins of public-access sites should educate their users in >the proper use of Usenet before granting them the ability to post >articles? > >Larry Dighera >---------- Please, can we try to shake the image of computer hackers who don't know how to deal with people and demonstrate a little diplomacy when we correct our fellow net users? We have all sorts of people on the net with all levels of experience. Many sites, including mine, have system administrators who show little interest in giving classes on use of the net. Larry, you are clearly a more experienced user than Thyss. Please don't embarrass newer users off the net. We all gain from having a large audience of potential respondees to our postings. John Hardin hardin%hpindda@hplabs.hp.com
berger@clio.las.uiuc.edu (03/23/88)
It's not necessary to jump on everybody that asks for a re-posting of
a recently distributed program. As most of us know, some sites
re-cycle note/news file space fast. And the need for a particular
program isn't always apparent just when the program is distributed.
Also consider that some programs are poorly documented on dis-
tribution. You may not even know what it does until somebody
else reports favorably on it.
Mike Berger
Department of Statistics
Science, Technology, and Society
University of Illinois
berger@clio.las.uiuc.edu
{ihnp4 | convex | pur-ee}!uiucuxc!clio!bergerThyss@cup.portal.com (03/24/88)
In article <221@conexch.uucp> Larry Dighera writes: >Let me see if I understand the content of this posting correctly. [ more stuff here that I'll leave out ] Hey, sorry, that was about the 2nd post I've made to the net! We ALL do things wrong once in a while don't we? Well, I tried, I didn't know I was supposed to send mail to the origin of the file. Wow, it's nice to know that some people REALLY care in this world. Thanks for making my day great. Thyss p.s. I'm not a She, i'm a he
emartins@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (03/25/88)
Bravo, John!
I am fairly new to the net myself, and I'm sick and tired of seeing
self proclaimed 'net gods' jumping all over new users who are not as
knowledgeable as they are. Those folks seem to have forgotten that they
MUST have been novices once. Their attitude is arrogant, offensive, and
prevents us new users from contributing to the net (several times I've
thought of replying to some note, but then decided not to, because I
don't wan't some insolent a**h*** jumping all over me because I did this
and that...).
So, all you enlightened net gods out there, when you see a novice make a
mistake, try not to torn the poor soul apart, and try to HELP HIM for a
change!
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Eduardo Martins emartins@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu
Department of Economics
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
"It's life, Jim, but not as we know it..."