[comp.sys.ibm.pc] Lawsuit, standardization, etc

nelson_p@apollo.uucp (04/30/88)

>Things Apple did before IBM
>---------------------------
>Graphical user interface
>Mouse
>32-bit architecture
>3-1/2 disk drives
>Built-in video, disk drive controllers, clock chip, etc.
>OS capable of addressing large amounts of memory
>Multitasking
>
>Things IBM did before Apple:
>----------------------------
>Open architecture (not even this if you count the Apple II...)

  I assume that by 'open architecture' you mean that PC's have an
  expansion bus and that the physical, electrical, and timing info
  on the bus is made public so anybody can make boards to plug
  into it.  

  If so, then IBM is responsible for another MAJOR innovation that
  greatly benefitted the industry and that you have overlooked:
  THEY ALLOWED THE EXISTENCE OF (FUNCTIONAL) CLONES.
  
  The whole reason why you can buy a PC-type computer for about
  half the price of a similarly equipped Mac is that Apple allows
  no competition.  All of Apple's innovations are really neat 
  but if you can't afford them then it's academic.  Engineering
  types sometimes forget that sales and marketing innovations are
  just as important as technical ones.   

                                           --Peter Nelson

cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) (05/03/88)

> >Things IBM did before Apple:
> >----------------------------
> >Open architecture (not even this if you count the Apple II...)
> 
>   I assume that by 'open architecture' you mean that PC's have an
>   expansion bus and that the physical, electrical, and timing info
>   on the bus is made public so anybody can make boards to plug
>   into it.  
> 
>   If so, then IBM is responsible for another MAJOR innovation that
>   greatly benefitted the industry and that you have overlooked:
>   THEY ALLOWED THE EXISTENCE OF (FUNCTIONAL) CLONES.
>   
>   The whole reason why you can buy a PC-type computer for about
>   half the price of a similarly equipped Mac is that Apple allows
>   no competition.  All of Apple's innovations are really neat 
>   but if you can't afford them then it's academic.  Engineering
>   types sometimes forget that sales and marketing innovations are
>   just as important as technical ones.   
> 
>                                            --Peter Nelson

Which reminds of when the DEC salesman came to Harris DTS to show us
the DEC Rainbow personal computer.  One of the EEs asked if the backplane
specs were available, and the salesman said, "Well, we're going to keep
the details proprietary for a year or two, until we're sure all the bugs
are out of it."  (Translation from salespeak, "No one is going to make
money selling cards for this sucker but us.")  Not surprisingly, the DEC
Rainbow was a flaming failure because it was too expensive.

Apple was successful because the Mac was innovative.  Had it been less
innovative, the closed architecture would have doomed the Mac -- and
maybe Apple.

Clayton E. Cramer