[comp.sys.ibm.pc] Bible software for the PC

eggers@ndcheg.UUCP (05/12/88)

I have a user who is looking for some public domain/shareware
software for an IBM PC that is related to scholarly Bible work.
If anyone has any knowledge about the existance of software of
this type, please let me know by email, since I don't read this
group regularly.

Thanks in advance - Mark Eggers, University of Notre Dame

bartkus@ncrats.UUCP (Patrick Bartkus) (05/14/88)

In article <557@ndcheg.UUCP> eggers@ndcheg.UUCP (Mark Eggers) writes:
>I have a user who is looking for some public domain/shareware
>software for an IBM PC that is related to scholarly Bible work.

I doubt if you are going to find any PD/Shareware in this area but 
no harm in asking. If you are willing to put out a few $$, check
out: Bible Research Systems            
     2013 Wells Branch Parkway, #304
     Austin, TX 78728
     (512) 251-7541
They have the New International Version in addition to the KJV on
flex. They also have Strong's Concordance, and Greek and Hebrew
transliterators for SERIOUS study plus some other handy addons.

Patrick Bartkus

jamesa@amadeus.TEK.COM (James Akiyama) (05/16/88)

In article <557@ndcheg.UUCP>, eggers@ndcheg.UUCP (Mark Eggers) writes:
> I have a user who is looking for some public domain/shareware
> software for an IBM PC that is related to scholarly Bible work.
> If anyone has any knowledge about the existance of software of
> this type, please let me know by email, since I don't read this
> group regularly.
> 
> Thanks in advance - Mark Eggers, University of Notre Dame


I have been working on a program called "The Bible Word Program" which may
serve your friends needs.  It is not "public domain" (since I want to maintain
copyright; mainly to allow a sane bug reporting scheme and because I may have
to in order to legally meet Microsoft's C-Compiler's license agreement) nor is
it "shareware" (since I don't really want people to "send money" (outside of
covering duplicating/shipping costs) for two reasons:  (1) It creates sticky
IRS issues; and (2) It may be contrary to my "non-competitive" employment
agreement with Tektronix since I am hired by them as a software developer--I
don't think Tek would mind, but why take chances).

Anyway, the program has been in use at a local seminary (Western Conservative
Baptist Seminary, Portland, OR) for about six months.  They seem quite pleased
with it so far.  Note that I will NOT POST THE PROGRAM since it is VERY LARGE.
The program itself is about 120K; plus 40K for the installation program; and
about 10K for the support stuff.  Each text is about 2.0 MEGS per Translation
(Old and New Testament--Hebrew and Greek version smaller since they only
contain either OT or NT).  The program has the following features:

    1.	Potentially works with an unlimited amount of Translations (limited
	only by your available disk space); currently available:

	a.  King James Version (with or without Apocrypha/Deuterocanonical
	    additions).

	b.  United Bible Society Greek NT (displays fully polytonic Greek set
	    on EGA or VGA graphic compatible systems).

	Shortly available (within a few weeks):

	a.  Revised Standard Version (with or without Apocrypha/Deuterocanonical
	    additions).

	b.  Greek Septuagint OT including variations (e.g. Theodotian).

	Work progressing:

	a.  BHS Hebrew OT (text will be shortly available in a transliterated
	    form--Hebrew character set is still a ways off).

	Additionally, I am trying to obtain Copyright permission with several
	other Translators.  Note that several of the text above require
	registering your name with the University of Pennsylvania (where I got
	several of the Translation's text).  The registration mainly makes sure
	that you recognize the Copyright holders of the Text and also that you
	do not use the text for commercial applications.  More infomation can
	be obtained from the U. of P. CCAT program or directly from me.  Note
	that their version of the text, as provided by them, cannot be directly
	used with my program (they use a different format).

    2.	Ability to open two windows into two different areas of Scripture or
	even two different Translation.  Both windows are independent--allowing
	independent scrolling, pattern matching, and verse ranges.

    3.	Pattern matching is based on the Unix style "regex" with the addition
	of logical operators (NOT, AND, and OR functions).  It includes
	"wildcard" matching, and other nice features of "regex".  In Greek,
	the pattern matching currently ignores Breathing marks, Accents,
	Diphthongs, etc. since these generally change semmatics and not actual
	Biblical meaning (watch me get flamed by some Literature people for
	this one).

    4.	Ability to view a Catholic translation with or without Apocrypha/
	Deuterocanonical additions.  The program seamlessly "remaps" the
	Book numbering and/or verse numbering appropriately.  In Catholic mode,
	the program currently adapts the format used by the New American Bible
	(although references can be entered using the older Vulgate numbering
	scheme).  The program performs this mapping by determining how many
	Book Names (or abbreviated names) you provide.

    5.	Ability to generate and edit "Index Files".  Note that it is also
	possible to generate an index in, say, Catholic mode, and read it
	back in Protestant mode--the program again automatically adjusts for
	the differences in Book/Chapter/Verse ordering.

    6.	Limited compatibility with Microsoft Windows.  Although currently the
	program expects to own the whole screen, it does not poke around
	directly with hardware.  Thus it can be run as a Windows application
	and swapped out to an ICON using Window's "minimize" option (ALT-ESC).
	Later versions will probably be enhanced to offer fuller support.

    7.	Portable to many systems.  Currently the program has been tested on
	Unix (Sys V and BSD), as well as DOS.  Since all code in in C; porting
	should be relatively simple (the DOS version does contain assembly
	optimized routines; however, C version of the routines exists).

    8.	Search time is approximately one minute, forty seconds on an IBM
	8 MHz AT system.  This is not as fast as Search Programs with
	pre-sorted indexes but offeres the advantage of not requiring an
	incore wordlist (word list is approimately 256K) for every Translation.

    9.	On-line, context sensitive help.  Help is always available by hitting
	the ESC key.  Help can always be aborted by hitting the ESC key.

Several other "features" exists, these are just the ones I remember.  System
requirements are:  IBM PC/XT/AT with a minimum of 256K memory (512K or greater
will substantially increase performance and features).  Fixed Disk and EGA/VGA
graphic's adapter are desirable (note that an monochrome EGA system is a low
cost way of getting the alternate character set).

I am providing the program, on a very limited basis, to various church groups,
and other such organizations.  I can probably be convinced to make arrangements
in sending a few copyies out to individuals.  Unfortunately, since this is
being done as "freeware" the funding for this project is VERY LIMITED.  Contact
me directly if you're interested.

				James Akiyama
				Tektronix, Inc.
				jamesa@amadeus.TEK.COM
				(503) 645-7357 (home)
				(503) 629-1907 (work)

DISCLAIMER:  Tektronix, Inc. is in no way affliated with this project and does
not discriminated on the basis of religion (or any other way that I'm aware of).

randys@mipon2.intel.com (Randy Steck) (05/19/88)

In article <199@ncrats.UUCP> bartkus@Atlanta.NCR.COM (Patrick Bartkus) writes:
>In article <557@ndcheg.UUCP> eggers@ndcheg.UUCP (Mark Eggers) writes:
>>I have a user who is looking for some public domain/shareware
>>software for an IBM PC that is related to scholarly Bible work.
>
>I doubt if you are going to find any PD/Shareware in this area but 
>no harm in asking..... 


The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) has a full King
James Version available with an excellent Topical Guide included for use on
a PC.  This includes most of the strictly Mormon scriptures, but appears to
be very useful in searching for references or threads in just the Bible
also.

I believe the cost is ~$70.  It consumes about 10MB of disk space, index
included.  I have not used it, but have heard very good things about it.

Randy Steck
Intel Corp.

len@csd1.milw.wisc.edu (Leonard P Levine,1045E,5170,9624719) (05/20/88)

From article <3484@omepd>, by randys@mipon2.intel.com (Randy Steck):
> In article <199@ncrats.UUCP> bartkus@Atlanta.NCR.COM (Patrick Bartkus) writes:
>>In article <557@ndcheg.UUCP> eggers@ndcheg.UUCP (Mark Eggers) writes:
>>>I have a user who is looking for some public domain/shareware
>>>software for an IBM PC that is related to scholarly Bible work.
>>

A faculty member here at UWM does some very interesting work with 
bible compendia.  He is not on the net but can be reached by phone or
mail.  I am sure he will be willing to share his software and data
as he is a cooperative person.

Professor Alan Corre
Department of Hebrew Studies
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Milwaukee, WI 53201

(414) 229-4245

Hope this helps.

len@evax.milw.wisc.edu

sorensen@hstbme.mit.edu (A. Gregory Sorensen) (05/21/88)

In article <3484@omepd> randys@mipon2.UUCP (Randy Steck) writes:
>In article <199@ncrats.UUCP> bartkus@Atlanta.NCR.COM (Patrick Bartkus) writes:
>>In article <557@ndcheg.UUCP> eggers@ndcheg.UUCP (Mark Eggers) writes:
>>>I have a user who is looking for some public domain/shareware
>>>software for an IBM PC that is related to scholarly Bible work.
>>
>
>The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) has a full King
>James Version available with an excellent Topical Guide included for use on
>a PC.  This includes most of the strictly Mormon scriptures, but appears to
>be very useful in searching for references or threads in just the Bible
>also.

I purchased this program, and like it quite a bit.  $63.50, although
you can get full documentation and the right to copy the 30+ disks
for less (about $40).  It is fast, complete, user-modifiable, and allows
complex searches and index generation.  It is basically the run-time
part of WordCruncher (reviewed in Byte last ?November?).

It takes up about 12 Mb if you load on the (optional) Dictionary and
Thesaraus.  The Church has an 800 number.  I actually used the Beta
version before the April release and this has a much nicer interface.

Greg Sorensen