nnpeterson@watcgl.waterloo.edu (Neil N. Peterson) (06/21/88)
Has anyone out there ported the unix source for Vi (posted a short while ago)
to the IBM PC/XT? If so I would dearly love to know, it would save me some
badly needed time.
Blue Skies,
Neil
(Neil N. Peterson)
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OTHER: nnpeterson@cgl.waterloo.cdnromero@mind.UUCP (Antonio Romero) (06/21/88)
In article <4943@watcgl.waterloo.edu>, nnpeterson@watcgl.waterloo.edu (Neil N. Peterson) writes: > Has anyone out there ported the unix source for Vi (posted a short while ago) > to the IBM PC/XT? If so I would dearly love to know, it would save me some > badly needed time. A few things: 1) Mortice Kern Systems makes a thorough VI for the PC. In fact, if you're accustomed to the Unix environment, I'd suggest buying the entire MKS Toolkit. Not too expensive, and gives you almost everything you could want to make you feel much more at home on the PC... even a pretty good imitation of the Korn Shell. My only warnings: You will need a hard disk-- there's too many utilities to fit comfortably on a floppy. (Granted, you could collect the most commonly used ones on one disk, but VI does a fair amount with temporary files, so that would be slow too unless you had a ramdisk... Also, on the PC (as opposed to an AT) VI is a little slow, as is command line editing in the shell. 2) There's a so-so VI imitation called "Z" included with most MANX compilers. VERY STRICTLY so-so imitation-- the simpler commands are there but they left out a lot... 3) Are you sure the Unix source for VI was posted recently? If so, someone's in a whole lot of trouble when AT&T hears about it... -Antonio Romero romero@mirth.princeton.edu
wnp@dcs.UUCP (Wolf N. Paul) (06/22/88)
In article <2555@mind.UUCP> romero@mind.UUCP (Antonio Romero) writes: >In article <4943@watcgl.waterloo.edu>, nnpeterson@watcgl.waterloo.edu (Neil N. Peterson) writes: >> Has anyone out there ported the unix source for Vi (posted a short while ago) >> to the IBM PC/XT? If so I would dearly love to know, it would save me some >> badly needed time. > > 3) Are you sure the Unix source for VI was posted recently? If so, >someone's in a whole lot of trouble when AT&T hears about it... I think what the original poster is referring to is a program called "stevie", a (limited) vi-lookalike originally written for the Atari ST. It was posted a few weeks ago to comp.sources.misc. There are two other vi lookalikes with source code around: 1. Webb Miller, A Software Tools Sampler (Prentice Hall 1987) includes source code to an editor called "s", which is also available on a DOS diskette. Call Jim Fegen's office at P-H, (201)-592-2000, Ext. 3123, for ordering instructions. 2. Marc Rochkind has a book out, called something like "Portable C Programming for Displays"; don't know the publisher. It also includes source to a vi-like editor, and I would be surprised if it were not also available on disk, probably from Marc's company. I agree with Antonio, however, that MKS' vi is probably your best bet if you want a truly UNIX-compatible vi environment, especially since CSS' and PC-VI's demise. The "Z" editor from Manx, at least the version floating around the BBS, lacks most of the useful ex commands (like substitute, etc.). I'm also still not sure that it is really kosher -- I have seen no statement from MANX to the effect that it is PD or shareware. Wolf -- Wolf N. Paul * 3387 Sam Rayburn Run * Carrollton TX 75007 * (214) 306-9101 UUCP: killer!dcs!wnp ESL: 62832882 DOMAIN: wnp@dcs.UUCP TLX: 910-380-0585 EES PLANO UD
romero@mind.UUCP (Antonio Romero) (06/22/88)
In article <122@dcs.UUCP>, wnp@dcs.UUCP (Wolf N. Paul) writes: > In article <2555@mind.UUCP> romero@mind.UUCP (Antonio Romero) writes: > >In article <4943@watcgl.waterloo.edu>, nnpeterson@watcgl.waterloo.edu (Neil N. Peterson) writes: > >> Has anyone out there ported the unix source for Vi (posted recently) > >> to the IBM PC/XT? > The "Z" editor from Manx, at least the version floating > around the BBS, lacks most of the useful ex commands (like substitute, etc.). > I'm also still not sure that it is really kosher -- I have seen no statement > from MANX to the effect that it is PD or shareware. > Wolf I seem to remember this came up some time ago in this group, and the answer was that Z was ABSOLUTELY NOT PD. If you have an illegal copy, erase it immediately or we'll send the Software Police... :-) But seriously, I wouldn't pick up Z as a VI clone, even if it was legally free... it's too small a subset to be useful. If you're really strapped for cash, consider that MKS will sell VI on it own, with a few other little utilities thrown in, for considerably less than the rest of the Toolkit. (Don't recall the exact price, but something like $69? Gerry Wheeler, can you supply firm information?) -Antonio Romero romero@confidence.princeton.edu
sytek@tekgen.BV.TEK.COM (Mike Ewan) (06/23/88)
In article <2555@mind.UUCP> romero@mind.UUCP (Antonio Romero) writes: >In article <4943@watcgl.waterloo.edu>, nnpeterson@watcgl.waterloo.edu (Neil N. Peterson) writes: >> Has anyone out there ported the unix source for Vi (posted a short while ago) >> to the IBM PC/XT? If so I would dearly love to know, it would save me some >> badly needed time. > >A few things: [...] > > 3) Are you sure the Unix source for VI was posted recently? If so, >someone's in a whole lot of trouble when AT&T hears about it... > >-Antonio Romero romero@mirth.princeton.edu Actually the Vi source in question was a PD Vi clone for the Atari ST and OS/2, not the original Unix source. Also I think Vi is copyright by UCB not AT&T since Vi originally showed up in Berkeley's extensions to V7. ---- Michael Ewan decvax-----\ (503)627-6468 hplabs------>----!tektronix!nesa!raven!mike mike@raven.TELCOM.TEK.COM ucbvax-----/
wheels@mks.UUCP (Gerry Wheeler) (06/25/88)
In article <2557@mind.UUCP>, romero@mind.UUCP (Antonio Romero) writes: > I wouldn't pick up Z as a VI clone, even if it was > legally free. Consider that MKS will sell VI on it own, with a few > other little utilities thrown in, for considerably less than the rest > of the Toolkit. (Don't recall the exact price, but something like $69? > Gerry Wheeler, can you supply firm information?) Our vi package, which is a subset of our Toolkit, containts vi, crypt, ctags, fg (to recall vi after putting it to sleep), fmt, glob (wildcard expander), jobs (to see how many sleeping vi's there are), sort, and switch (to change DOS switch character) for $75 US. Seems like a good deal to me, but I may be biased. :-) -- Gerry Wheeler Phone: (519)884-2251 Mortice Kern Systems Inc. UUCP: uunet!watmath!mks!wheels 35 King St. North BIX: join mks Waterloo, Ontario N2J 2W9 CompuServe: 73260,1043
steve@aardvark.UUCP (Steve Willoughby) (06/25/88)
In article <4943@watcgl.waterloo.edu> nnpeterson@watcgl.waterloo.edu (Neil N. Peterson) writes: >Has anyone out there ported the unix source for Vi (posted a short while ago) >to the IBM PC/XT? If so I would dearly love to know, it would save me some >badly needed time. Check out a program called PC/VI from Custom Software Systems (P.O. Box 678; Natick, MA. 01760; 617-653-2555). I've been using the editor for a few months and as far as I can tell, it seems to be _identical_ to the Unix "vi" program. [I have no connection with Custom Software Systems, except as a satisfied customer.] I got it through a mail-order ad in some random computer magazine. The price is not too bad for what you get. Hope this is what you're looking for. -- =========================================================================== Steve Willoughby ihnp4!tektronix!tessi!aardvark!steve ===========================================================================
kinmonthprep@deneb.ucdavis.edu (0000;0000007891;410;465;401;) (06/25/88)
In article <481@mks.UUCP> wheels@mks.UUCP (Gerry Wheeler) writes: >In article <2557@mind.UUCP>, romero@mind.UUCP (Antonio Romero) writes: >Our vi package, which is a subset of our Toolkit, containts vi, crypt, >switch (to change DOS switch character) for $75 US. Seems like a good >deal to me, but I may be biased. :-) Damn good deal in my experience!
pattib@omepd (Patti Beadles) (06/28/88)
Ok, already. I'm tired of hearing how wonderful the MKS tools are. Can someone please give me their address and phone number so that we can go about ordering a few copies? -- ...tektronix!ogcvax!omepd!pattib or ...tektronix!teksce!bucket!patti --