wew@naucse.UUCP (Bill Wilson) (06/28/88)
I apologize for including a binary in this message but the
people in charge of the binaries group will not have the
decency to tell me how to post a program to that group.
The program that I have included is a utility to change the
path by adding or subtracting elements from the current path.
I wrote and use the utility and find it very helpful. It has
been tested under MS/IBM DOS 3.2 & 3.3.
Again, I apologize for posting in this manner. If someone
will tell me how to get postings sent to the binaries area
I will be glad to comply. When I post I receive an error
return of 10 and am told that I cannot post to that newsgroup.
Thankyou....
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Bill Wilson (Bitnet: ucc2wew@nauvm)
Northern AZ Univ
Flagstaff, AZ 86011
{These views are mine and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer}davidsen@steinmetz.ge.com (William E. Davidsen Jr) (06/29/88)
I tried to mail this. I really tried to be as polite as I could, but this pile of complaints against the people who work to keep the net useful really gets to me. In article <761@naucse.UUCP> wew@naucse.UUCP (Bill Wilson) writes: | I apologize for including a binary in this message but the | people in charge of the binaries group will not have the | decency to tell me how to post a program to that group. You seem to be able to figure out postnews well enough to post to this group though. Who exactly refused to tell you? Was it the moderator who's name you got from the list of moderators? Was it your system administrator? You did, of course, read the manual, right? [ description of program deleted ] | Again, I apologize for posting in this manner. If someone | will tell me how to get postings sent to the binaries area | I will be glad to comply. When I post I receive an error | return of 10 and am told that I cannot post to that newsgroup. It also tells you that the article has been sent to the moderator who will post it for you, unless your system administrator has shut off posting to that group. You did check with him/her didn't you. The routine you posted may well be useful to many people, but the reason we got binaries out of this group is that they make the volume too high, and some sites may not carry the group at all if the volume goes back up. Please read the manual and newuser postings. Perhaps the next time you don't know how to do something you could ask in this group, rather than doing it in an inappropriate way. [ hundreds of lines of binary deleted ] -- bill davidsen (wedu@ge-crd.arpa) {uunet | philabs | seismo}!steinmetz!crdos1!davidsen "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me
dick@slvblc.UUCP (Dick Flanagan) (06/30/88)
In article <761@naucse.UUCP> wew@naucse.UUCP (Bill Wilson) writes: > I apologize for including a binary in this message but the > people in charge of the binaries group will not have the > decency to tell me how to post a program to that group. As the current person "in charge of the binaries group," I have to admit that it WAS difficult to respond to your request to post your program to comp.binaries.ibm.pc. Especially when you didn't send it to me for posting until over 24 hours AFTER you posted it yourself to comp.sys.ibm.pc. Connectivity is not 100% within Usenet, Bill, and I did not see any other inquiry you might have posted. But not knowing how to properly post a binary is not an excuse to _knowingly_ post it improperly. > The program that I have included is a utility to change the > path by adding or subtracting elements from the current path. Including source code would have been very nice, especially in this day of the virus, and your $5 suggested donation seems a bit high for something that can be easily done with a few lines in a batch file, but that's just my opinion. > I wrote and use the utility and find it very helpful. It has > been tested under MS/IBM DOS 3.2 & 3.3. One word of caution from an inadvertant tester: if I envoke your program as 'chgpath -' (omitting the path name) on my AT clone running PC-DOS 3.3, it will promptly trash low memory, resulting in that familiar message notifying me that COMMAND.COM has just halted. 8-( Very thorough testing is always a good idea before submitting a program for world-wide distribution. > Again, I apologize for posting in this manner. If someone > will tell me how to get postings sent to the binaries area > I will be glad to comply. When I post I receive an error > return of 10 and am told that I cannot post to that newsgroup. Your local system administrator should have been able to assist you. In any case, if you are still unable to post submissions directly to comp.binaries.ibm.pc for forwarding to the current moderator, you can email them directly to: bsu-cs!ibmpc-binaries@uunet.uu.net or bsu-cs!ibmpc-binaries@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu Bill, before you start questioning the decency of folks, I think you should do a little more research into how the net operates. Talk to your system administrator and other folks at your site who are familiar with it, read the material in the net.announce groups (it will answer tons of your questions), and, probably best of all, sit back and just read the groups for a few weeks to get a feel for how everything plays together. In your mail to me, you said you received flames and insults in response to your request for information on posting binaries. For these, I sincerely apololgize. Unfortunately, some nerves are getting a little frazzled regarding the binaries groups these days, and there are always those people who think they have to yell in order to communicate or who are simply into abuse and intimidation. Fortunately for all of us, they are in the minority. Please contact me via email if there are any questions you still have after looking into the other sources I mentioned, and I'll try to help answer them if I can. . . . Dick -- Dick Flanagan, vacation moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc (23 hrs 13 min...) {backbones}!ucbvax!ucscc!slvblc!dick or slvblc!dick@ucscc.ucsc.edu
wew@naucse.UUCP (Bill Wilson) (06/30/88)
From article <11416@steinmetz.ge.com>, by davidsen@steinmetz.ge.com (William E. Davidsen Jr): > I tried to mail this. I really tried to be as polite as I could, but > this pile of complaints against the people who work to keep the net > useful really gets to me. > You people seem to be able to flame at will but no-one seems to like to help. I do not have a manual, was not told how to get a manual, have not been able to get help from our systems programmer (who is also the administrator) and no-one out there it net land when giving criticisms will offer any help. I finally was able to figure out who a moderator might be and in two days he hasn't had the decency to return any mail to me. Why don't you bigots get off your high horses and offer some help instead of none? -- Bill Wilson (Bitnet: ucc2wew@nauvm) Northern AZ Univ Flagstaff, AZ 86011 {These views are mine and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer}
mvolo@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Michael R. Volow) (07/01/88)
In article <763@naucse.UUCP>, wew@naucse.UUCP (Bill Wilson) writes: > You people seem to be able to flame at will but no-one seems > to like to help. I do not have a manual, was not told how to > get a manual, have not been able to get help from our systems > programmer (who is also the administrator) and no-one out there > it net land when giving criticisms will offer any help. I finally > was able to figure out who a moderator might be and in two days he > hasn't had the decency to return any mail to me. > > Why don't you bigots get off your high horses and offer some help > instead of none? Amen! Much of the reason for newcomers (and some oldies) *not* reading the f......g manual, is that in computerdom (especially Unixdom) is that the manual is either unavailable, or so terse and un-Englishlike to be unreadable, or difficult to locate, or not recurrent enough to be found by new users. One suggestion might be that the moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc (or any other group with specialized submis- ion requirements) carry a perennial message describing the address of the moderator and procedures for submission.. Michael R. Volow 919 286 0411 Dept. of Psychiatry mvolo@ecsvax.UUCP Durham Vet Admin Medical Center Durham, N.C. 27712