xdaa374@ut-emx.UUCP (William T. Douglass) (09/07/88)
I have just received an Everex 20MHz '386, w/ 4MB ram. The OS is MS-DOS 3.3, running Windows/386. One of the main applications we would like to run is Excel, but as configured, Windows is unable to do anything with the 3 meg of extended memory in the system (other than as a ramdisk.) The documentation for Windows and Excel indicate nothing about the use of extended memory as expanded memory. I am looking for a driver, perhaps, that can simulate the LIM 3.4 specs using the extended memory in this Everex box. Can anybody help me (answers, pointers, etc?) Please post responses, as I am suspicious of the mail link to our site. Thanks for you help. -- Bill Douglass, TCADA "I dreamed I was to take a test, in a Dairy Queen, on another planet." L. Anderson
burleigh@silver.bacs.indiana.edu (frank burleigh) (09/07/88)
In article <5791@ut-emx.UUCP> xdaa374@ut-emx.UUCP (William T. Douglass) writes: >The documentation for Windows and Excel indicate nothing about the >use of extended memory as expanded memory. I am looking for a driver, >perhaps, that can simulate the LIM 3.4 specs using the extended memory >in this Everex box. Can anybody help me (answers, pointers, etc?) On one of the Excel distribution diskettes you will find some readme files. One of them reviews in depth Excel's expanded and extended memory usage. -- Frank Burleigh/ Dept. of Sociology/Indiana University, Bloomington, IN 47405 USENET: ...rutger4!iuvax!silver!burleigh 812/333-7082, 335-4127
brown@nicmad.UUCP (Mr. Video) (09/07/88)
In article <5791@ut-emx.UUCP> xdaa374@ut-emx.UUCP (William T. Douglass) writes:
<I have just received an Everex 20MHz '386, w/ 4MB ram. The OS
<is MS-DOS 3.3, running Windows/386. One of the main applications
<we would like to run is Excel, but as configured, Windows is unable
<to do anything with the 3 meg of extended memory in the system (other
<than as a ramdisk.)
Whoa! This ain't true. Windows/386 does its own management of the extended
memory and will NOT work, or allow, expanded memory managers to be installed.
Do this little test:
Remove any Ram disk programs from CONFIG.SYS. This will leave all of your
memory free. Bring up Windows/386. Bring down the file menu and look at the
ABOUT option. When it comes up, you will see the amount of memory that
Windows/386 thinks that it has left. It should be somewhere around 3 MB.
If not, then Windows/386 isn't seeing the other 3 MB of extended memory.
If it isn't seeing it, are you sure that it is extended memory and not
expanded memory. Windows/386 cannot use expanded memory at all.
If it is indeed extended memory (stuff addressed above 1MB) and not
expanded memory (the LIM 3.4/4.0 memory), then Windows/386 is not compatible
with that machine. I seriously doubt that Windows/386 is incompatible.
<The documentation for Windows and Excel indicate nothing about the
<use of extended memory as expanded memory. I am looking for a driver,
<perhaps, that can simulate the LIM 3.4 specs using the extended memory
<in this Everex box. Can anybody help me (answers, pointers, etc?)
The following pages discuss memory:
Using Microsoft Windows/386
Page 2, 6 and 25
Questions and Answers (version 2.10 only)
Pages 3-6
I hope this helps a little bit. I do not know how much memory is allocated
to Excel when it is started. You can check this by looking at the ABOUT
box before and after starting Excel.
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rolls--/patrick@crcmar.uucp (Andrew Patrick) (09/13/88)
In article <5791@ut-emx.UUCP> xdaa374@ut-emx.UUCP (William T. Douglass) writes: >I have just received an Everex 20MHz '386, w/ 4MB ram. The OS >is MS-DOS 3.3, running Windows/386. One of the main applications >we would like to run is Excel, but as configured, Windows is unable >to do anything with the 3 meg of extended memory in the system (other >than as a ramdisk.) > >The documentation for Windows and Excel indicate nothing about the >use of extended memory as expanded memory. I am looking for a driver, >perhaps, that can simulate the LIM 3.4 specs using the extended memory >in this Everex box. Can anybody help me (answers, pointers, etc?) > >Please post responses, as I am suspicious of the mail link to our site. >Thanks for you help. Last February, someone posted EMSIM to comp.binaries.ibm.pc. This a limited-size (256K), demonstration version! A full size version would have to be ordered from the company, but the demo seems to work on our systems. Here are some portions from the DOC file. .. .. EMSimulator .. .. .. An Expanded Memory Simulator for the IBM AT .. and Compatibles. .. .. .. By Karlton W. Kam .. .. Installation/Users Guide .. Limited Evaluation Version .. .. .. Copyright (c) 1986, Kam & Associates, Inc. .. All Rights Reserved. .. .. .. .. Kam & Associates, Inc. .. 3615 Harding Ave. Suite 401 .. Honolulu, Hawaii 96816 .. (808) 737-3647 .. .. .. .. This document and its respective files are a complete working .. limited evaluation version of the EMSimulator. All functions are .. implemented with the exception that simulated Expanded memory can .. not be larger than 256K in size. Users are allowed to distribute .. this version freely as long as it is not modified in any way. .. Anyone who finds the EMSimulator useful are encouraged to .. purchase the complete package which included printed .. documentation and an unrestricted version, which will allow up to .. 8 megabytes of extended memory to be used as expanded memory, for .. only $49.95. .. .. We at Kam & Associates are sure that you will find this utility .. very useful to any AT or compatible owner. We appreciate any .. comments or suggestions that you may have. .. .. .. Attention AT Extended Memory Owners! .. .. Up until now, most AT memory expansion boards such as the AST .. Advantage, Qubie 4X4, Everex RAM 3000, 2500, and Magic Card, .. Quadboard AT, Compaq 286, Etc, broke the 640K barrier by offering .. Extended Memory (memory above 1 Meg). Unfortunately, even though .. many users have several megabytes installed and available, this .. memory was not usable by most software programs except IBM's .. Vdisk. .. .. The EMSimulator or Expanded Memory Simulator, bridges the gap .. between your application software and the AT's previously .. unusable Extended memory. Now programs such as Lotus 123 v2, .. Symphony v1.1, Lightning, Reflex v1.1, and most L-I-M Expanded .. Memory compatible software can access up to 8 megabytes of your .. AT's extra memory. By removing the 640K restriction and .. limitations of conventional memory, expanded memory makes large .. spreadsheets and databases a reality. .. .. The EMSimulator is compatible with the IBM AT and most AT .. "Clones" including Compaq's 286 series. Installation of the .. EMSimulator is quick and easy requiring only an addition to your .. "CONFIG.SYS" file and that extended memory be available via an .. expansion board as mentioned above. Compaq 286's and some clones .. already have extended memory capabilities so additional boards .. may not be required! Contact us or your dealer for more .. information. .. .. At an Introductory price of only $49.95, the EMSimulator is an .. inexpensive way to utilize, maximize, and enhance both your .. hardware and software investment. .. .. .. Orders Only: Information/Orders .. (800)821-5226 Ext. 435 (808)737-3809 .. .. .. Kam & Associates, Inc. .. 3615 Harding Ave. Suite 401 .. Honolulu, Hawaii 96816 If you drop me a note, I can pack up the demo .arc and send it by e-mail. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Andrew Patrick, Ph.D. Communications Research Center, Ottawa, CANADA SmartMail: patrick@crcmar.uucp UUCP: ...utzoo!bnr-vpa!bnr-rsc!crcmar!patrick BITNET: patrick%crcmar@UTORGPU ARPA: dgbt@ncs-dre.arpa "Might as well be frank, monsieur. It would take a miracle to get you out of Casablanca." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~