pervect@bsu-cs.UUCP (Barrett Kreiner) (09/09/88)
H'lo netland. A couple of days ago I got my first taste of windows 2.x and all I can say is WOW! up until then we've been playing with windows 1.04 (dinosaur). at the same time I started reading 'Environments' in PC magazine, and seeing how easy it is to write for windows. My question is this: They mention RC.EXE (resource compiler) and that they write the programs in C. Where can I get this wonderful RC.EXE and what C compilers will work with it? Is there a devlopment package put out by microsoft? and if so, how can I get it? ANY help will be appriciated. |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| |Barrett Kreiner UUCP: <backbones>!{iuvax,pur-ee,uunet}!bsu-cs!pervect | |Tech mgr, BSU Fine Arts Lab|-----------------------------------------------| | Ball State U. Muncie, IN | "I'll tell ya kid, the main problem with | |---------------------------| Pervish food is keeping the goo from crawling | | out of the bowl while you're eating it"| TOON: THE game for modern times | | Disclamer: "I don't know them! I'm a student, nobody listens to ME!" | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
mcdonald@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu (09/10/88)
>how easy it is to write for windows. See below. >My question is this: They mention RC.EXE (resource compiler) and that they >write the programs in C. Where can I get this wonderful RC.EXE and what C >compilers will work with it? Is there a devlopment package put out by >microsoft? and if so, how can I get it? First, go to a bookstore at your nearby mall and buy the BIG violet Windows book by Charles Petzold (accept no substitutes!). Read it. Then decide whether you expect Windows programming to be easy. If you do decide to program Windows, you have to buy the Windows software development kit from Microsoft (actually, any dealer). You will also need Microsoft C 5.0 or 5.1. A possible alternative to all the above is a language product called Actor, about which I know nothing. Doug McDonald (mcdonald@uicuuxe)
xspolsky%yale-zoo-suned@CS.YALE.EDU (Avram Spolsky) (09/11/88)
In article <3890@bsu-cs.UUCP> pervect@bsu-cs.UUCP (Barrett Kreiner) writes: | | A couple of days ago I got my first taste of windows 2.x and all I can say | is WOW! up until then we've been playing with windows 1.04 (dinosaur). | at the same time I started reading 'Environments' in PC magazine, and seeing | how easy it is to write for windows. | | My question is this: They mention RC.EXE (resource compiler) and that they | write the programs in C. Where can I get this wonderful RC.EXE and what C | compilers will work with it? Is there a devlopment package put out by | microsoft? and if so, how can I get it? | The Microsoft Windows developer's kit, put out by Microsoft, lists (I believe) at $500. You must have a microsoft language, officially MSC 4 or later (QuickC won't do it), Pascal, or MASM. It comes with three huge and rather complete manuals and takes up 5 3.5" disks. I haven't used this product, only looked at the manuals, and this does not constitute an endorsement!!! Joel Spolsky bitnet: spolsky@yalecs uucp: ...!yale!spolsky Yale University arpa: spolsky@yale.edu voicenet: 203-436-1483
Michael@cup.portal.com (09/11/88)
So you read those PC-Mag articles and now you think writing a REAL windows application is gonna be easy, ok I'll indulge you. You can get the Windows Software Development Kit for $500.00 (list). RC.EXE is in there, along with many other utilities, libraries, manuals, ect. Most computer stores can order it for you, I have never found one that stocks it. BTW, Microsoft doesn't mention this but you can get the Windows Device Driver Development Kit if you have the windows SDK. You have already paid for it when you bought the SDK, so the cost is free, but you have to sign a non- disclosure agreement with Microsoft.
jcmorris@mitre-bedford.ARPA (Joseph C. Morris) (09/11/88)
In article <3890@bsu-cs.UUCP> pervect@bsu-cs.UUCP (Barrett Kreiner) writes: > >My question is this: They mention RC.EXE (resource compiler) and that they >write the programs in C. Where can I get this wonderful RC.EXE and what C >compilers will work with it? Is there a devlopment package put out by >microsoft? and if so, how can I get it? Yup. It's part of the Microsoft Windows Software Development Kit, one of the more overpriced packages around. According to my memory (which may be completely wrong) I priced it at $450 from 47th Street around the first of this year. (I picked up a copy from a liquidation house for $200.) I haven't heard of anyone with a competing product yet (anyone from Borland listening?) And yes, I'll admit that 'overpriced' is relative. For example, I would consider that any COBOL compiler costing more than $1.00 is overpriced.
nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Russ Nelson) (09/12/88)
In article <8949@cup.portal.com> Michael@cup.portal.com writes:
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Microsoft doesn't mention this but you can get the Windows Device Driver
Development Kit if you have the windows SDK.
It's only of use if you plan on writing a screen driver, keyboard driver,
serial port driver, or sound driver. Don't bother to get it otherwise.
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--russ (nelson@clutx [.bitnet | .clarkson.edu])
Shuzan held out his short staff and said, "If you call this a short staff,
you oppose its reality. If you do not call it a short staff, you ignore the
facts. Now, what do you wish to call it?"bturner@hpcvlx.HP.COM (Bill Turner) (09/15/88)
> Microsoft doesn't mention this but you can get the Windows Device Driver > Development Kit if you have the windows SDK. > It's only of use if you plan on writing a screen driver, keyboard driver, > serial port driver, or sound driver. Don't bother to get it otherwise. Doesn't that kit also include printer/plotter driver examples? --Bill Turner