ix673@sdcc6.UUCP (rich) (04/28/85)
I realize that the net is not in general considered a polit- ical forum, But the net has grown. I hope and I pray that those of you who read this will do so with an open mind and heart. On campuses across the nation students have been trying to do just the smallest amount to end the apartheid slavery in South Africa, of South Africans. How can we continue to ignore such a situation as this? If one is to consider slavery the restriction of free movement, then South Africa is true a slave nation in this century. Her native people may not leave there labor camps. Yes they are paid, but not even enough to eat. Money is only as good as the food it buys. It is not the time or the place to go into the depth of the problems in South Africa in this article. All I ask is that you people read this, think about it and begin to dis- cuss it in the appropriate groups. Please at least listen to what has been going on down there for just all too long. If a near by University is holding a sit in or a teach in, go to it, you may learn something. Please excuse the quality of my writing, between 100 and 200 of us have been sleeping on the library steps at the University of California at San Diego for four nights now. We have stage sit-ins and teach-ins with various professors speaking. We have had marches and rallies with up to 2000 members of our very small student body attending. I feel it is a worth while movement, and I hope that we may receive the support of the net. Thank you for your time. If you have any questions or comments for our group we also have a pay phone by our sleeping bags, (619)457-9179. Richard Stewart. (general disclaimer, all opinions here are my own, and if you want to sue me I probably don't have enough money for it to be worth your while)
bill@persci.UUCP (05/01/85)
> I realize that the net is not in general considered a polit- > ical forum, But the net has grown. I hope and I pray that > those of you who read this will do so with an open mind and > heart. > Richard Stewart. You are EXACTLY right!!! The net is NOT in general a political forum. While I may (or may not) sympathize with your goals, I don't feel this posting is appropriate. I also question the 'open mind' request. In my experience, growing up philosophically and politically opposed to 99+% of 'my generation', I find that the request to 'please have an open mind' really means, "you better believe what I'm telling you or you ain't ****". I can't say what's worst, the verbal, physical(!), or intellectual abuse. Thank you for the precedent of using net.general for political discussions. Now we *ALL* can do it, regardless of race, creed, or sexual persuasion. -- Bill Swan {ihnp4|decvax|...}!uw-beaver!tikal!persci!bill Sure you can smoke, if you do it in private, at home, with the shades drawn!
marc@hpfcma.UUCP (marc) (05/12/85)
Richard, see my response to you posting in net.announce.
mikes@zaphod.UUCP (Mike Smith) (05/13/85)
> > I realize that the net is not in general considered a polit- > > ical forum, But the net has grown. I hope and I pray that > > those of you who read this will do so with an open mind and > > heart. > > Richard Stewart. > > In my > experience, growing up philosophically and politically opposed to 99+% > of 'my generation', I find that the request to 'please have an open mind' > really means, "you better believe what I'm telling you or you ain't ****". > I can't say what's worst, the verbal, physical(!), or intellectual abuse. > -- > Bill Swan {ihnp4|decvax|...}!uw-beaver!tikal!persci!bill > Sure you can smoke, if you do it in private, at home, with the shades drawn! Who are you and why do you exist ?
bhs@siemens.UUCP (05/14/85)
Wake up, Richard.. The blacks in South Africa enjoy the highest standard of living of all blacks in S. A. The blacks themselves do not really want divestiture, for example the chief of the Zulus has published editorials in, among other papers, the New York Times arguing that divestiture will do far more damage to S. African blacks than current apartheid. It is very easy, from a point thousands of miles away, to boil a highly complex issue down to a veryu basic argument (white vs. black), thereby conveniently skipping a vast number of facts which would destroy most arguments about apartheid in RSA. Apartheid is NOT a way of life to be supported- but starry eyed idealists typically will do more harm to a suffering people than the actual cause they are trying to combat. In the future, try confining your wailing to net.politics. Bernard H. Schwab Siemens RTL, Princeton, NJ