cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) (10/05/88)
A company called Nu-Mega Technologies sells a product called Magic CV that claims to use the virtual machine capabilities of the 386 to run CodeView in one address space, and the application being debugged in the other address space. As a consequence, CodeView only takes up 8K of address space. Has anyone used this product? Does it really work? It sounds really neat, but it's $199, and I'm not keen on spending the money for a 386 machine to use it with if it doesn't work reliably, and as they claim. -- Clayton E. Cramer ..!ames!pyramid!kontron!optilin!cramer
rfarris@serene.CTS.COM (Rick Farris) (10/05/88)
In article <543@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes: >A company called Nu-Mega Technologies sells a product called Magic CV > >Has anyone used this product? Does it really work? It sounds really >neat, but it's $199, >Clayton E. Cramer It probably works as advertised, but the new Turbo Debugger has the same (386) mode built in. It also has a mode wherein a small (~10k) tsr runs on the target computer, and the full debugger runs on another pc connected via the serial port. This gives you the small memory usage advantage on your present 286 or PC. (ok, ok, you *do* have to have *2* computers...) And the Turbo Debugger only costs $150 and they toss in Turbo C, Turbo Assembler, and Turbo Pascal for free. :-) And oh yeah, it comes with a conversion program to convert EXEs with CV debug information to Turbo Debugger format. Kind of makes the whole question moot, eh? Did I mention that the Turbo Debugger is the best debugger I've ever used? I've used CV a *lot*, and it can't hold a candle to TD. #include <disclaimer.h> Rick Farris rfarris@serene.cts.com voice (619) 259-6793 POB M KCBIW public access 259-7757 Del Mar CA 92014 ...!uunet!serene!rfarris serene.uucp 259-3704
ralf@b.gp.cs.cmu.edu (Ralf Brown) (10/06/88)
In article <271@serene.CTS.COM> rfarris@serene.cts.com (Rick Farris) writes: }And the Turbo Debugger only costs $150 and they toss in Turbo C, }Turbo Assembler, and Turbo Pascal for free. :-) Only if you already own an older version of either TC or TP. Otherwise, they "only" throw in TA. -- {harvard,uunet,ucbvax}!b.gp.cs.cmu.edu!ralf -=-=- AT&T: (412)268-3053 (school) ARPA: RALF@B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU |"Tolerance means excusing the mistakes others make. FIDO: Ralf Brown at 129/31 | Tact means not noticing them." --Arthur Schnitzler BITnet: RALF%B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU@CMUCCVMA -=-=- DISCLAIMER? I claimed something?
kaldis@topaz.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) (10/11/88)
In article <271@serene.CTS.COM> rfarris@serene.CTS.COM (Rick Farris) writes: > And the Turbo Debugger only costs $150 and they toss in Turbo C, > Turbo Assembler, and Turbo Pascal for free. :-) I believe the $150 offer is open only to registered Turbo users, and runs to the end of November. (Don't quote me on it, though. I don't have the ad in front of me right now.) -- Theodore A. Kaldis | "Perhaps we may +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- | frighten away email: kaldis@topaz.rutgers.edu | the ghost of so UUCP: {...}!rutgers!topaz.rutgers.edu!kaldis | many years ago U.S. Snail: P.O. Box #1212, Woodbridge, NJ 07095 | with a little Ma Bell: (201) 283-4855 (voice) | illumination . . ."
rfarris@serene.CTS.COM (Rick Farris) (10/12/88)
In article <Oct.11.11.06.50.1988.18380@topaz.rutgers.edu> kaldis@topaz.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) writes: >In article <271@serene.CTS.COM> rfarris@serene.CTS.COM (Rick Farris) writes: > >> And the Turbo Debugger only costs $150 and they toss in Turbo C, >> Turbo Assembler, and Turbo Pascal for free. :-) > >I believe the $150 offer is open only to registered Turbo users, and >runs to the end of November. > Theodore A. Kaldis | "Perhaps we may Ok, so after November, you pay $99 and get Turbo Debugger and Turbo Assembler, but no TC or TP. Still half the price and twice the debugger of Magic CV. :-) In fact, it's 3 debuggers. An 80386 version that leaves a full 640K for your program, the regular version, and the "remote" version that runs through your serial port and only takes up 10K in your target machine. Rick Farris rfarris@serene.cts.com voice (619) 259-6793 POB M KCBIW public access 259-7757 Del Mar CA 92014 ...!uunet!serene!rfarris serene.uucp 259-3704
pjh@mccc.UUCP (Pete Holsberg) (10/13/88)
In article <Oct.11.11.06.50.1988.18380@topaz.rutgers.edu> kaldis@topaz.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) writes: ...In article <271@serene.CTS.COM> rfarris@serene.CTS.COM (Rick Farris) writes: ... ...> And the Turbo Debugger only costs $150 and they toss in Turbo C, ...> Turbo Assembler, and Turbo Pascal for free. :-) ... ...I believe the $150 offer is open only to registered Turbo users, and ...runs to the end of November. (Don't quote me on it, though. I don't ...have the ad in front of me right now.) ...-- ... Theodore A. Kaldis | "Perhaps we may ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- | frighten away ... email: kaldis@topaz.rutgers.edu | the ghost of so ... UUCP: {...}!rutgers!topaz.rutgers.edu!kaldis | many years ago ... U.S. Snail: P.O. Box #1212, Woodbridge, NJ 07095 | with a little ... Ma Bell: (201) 283-4855 (voice) | illumination . . ." Anyone associated with a college or university can purchase Turbo C 2.0 for $49.95, and/or Turbo Debugger+Assembler for $49.95 from Borland's Educational Sales. (408) 438-8400 -- Pete Holsberg UUCP: {...!rutgers!}princeton!mccc!pjh Mercer College CompuServe: 70240,334 1200 Old Trenton Road GEnie: PJHOLSBERG Trenton, NJ 08690 Voice: 1-609-586-4800
woan@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Ronald S. Woan) (10/13/88)
In article <323@mccc.UUCP> pjh@mccc.UUCP (Pete Holsberg) writes: >Anyone associated with a college or university can purchase Turbo C 2.0 >for $49.95, and/or Turbo Debugger+Assembler for $49.95 from Borland's >Educational Sales. (408) 438-8400 > Are people sure about this? I talked to a Borland representative a few weeks ago, at a trade show, and was told that the educational discount was only applicable to those taking classes using the compilers... Ron Woan woan@cory.berkeley.edu