res@ptsfa.UUCP (02/11/88)
Is there a way to terminate Procomm w/o hanging up? -- Thanks, Bob Stockwell pacbell!ptsfa!res "Reality is the leading cause of stress, amongst those in touch with it" - Trudy
bobmon@iuvax.UUCP (Bob, Mon) (02/12/88)
res@ptsfa.UUCP (stockwell-1140galaxy-Bob Stockwell) writes: > >Is there a way to terminate Procomm w/o hanging up? I don't think so, but you can start up a subshell and do (almost) anything you want within it. (Alt-F4 key.) If you really want to dump Procomm, you could: 1) Use the widely-available Mark program, before starting Procomm. 2) Do your thing in Procomm, then fire up the subshell. 3) In the subshell, Release the mark. This will presumably free all the occupied memory above the mark, including Procomm (and the subshell). If you try this, post the results. (I.e., I have _not_ tried it, I don't have a strong intuition about what will happen, and I make no promises whatever.) -- You TOO Can Defeat The 4-Line .signature Limit And Be Obnoxious To Your Friends And Neighbours!!!!! ...---... Charles Cabbage on the Difference Engine running SE grade 10W40 at UKnoWhere Babble@diffEQ bob,mon@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu Chucky on Ada The Slide Rules!"Spaceship Earth! There IS no substitute!"
swh@hpsmtc1.HP.COM (Steve Harrold) (02/13/88)
Re: no-hangup when stopping ProComm Try looking at the modem configuration menus. I believe that you will find that there is an item related to a "shutdown" string to be sent to your modem. If I am correct, change the string to avoid resetting the modem. This should prevent the "hang-up". --------------------- Steve Harrold ...hplabs!hpsmtc1!swh HPG200/13 (408) 447-5580 ---------------------
res@ptsfa.UUCP (stockwell-1140galaxy-Bob Stockwell) (02/13/88)
In article <6137@iuvax.UUCP> bobmon@iuvax.UUCP (Bob, Mon) writes: >res@ptsfa.UUCP (stockwell-1140galaxy-Bob Stockwell) writes: >> >>Is there a way to terminate Procomm w/o hanging up? >I don't think so, but you can start up a subshell and do (almost) anything >you want within it. (Alt-F4 key.) >If you really want to dump Procomm, you could: > 1) Use the widely-available Mark program, before starting Procomm. > 2) Do your thing in Procomm, then fire up the subshell. > 3) In the subshell, Release the mark. This will presumably free all > the occupied memory above the mark, including Procomm (and the > subshell). I use Alt-F4, but sometimes I need to run a program larger than Procomm leaves for me. I tried Mark/Release. It hung my machine. However, I was able to do a warm reboot, which did not hang up my modem. So your suggestion worked, sort of??? Thanks, Bob Stockwell pacbell!ptsfa!res
jtc@dasher.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Jeffrey T. Carter) (02/13/88)
In article <4114@ptsfa.UUCP> res@ptsfa.UUCP (stockwell-1140galaxy-Bob Stockwell) writes: > >Is there a way to terminate Procomm w/o hanging up? > >Thanks, Bob Stockwell Yes, reboot the machine. You didn't ask for a elegant way to do it, now did you? :-> ============================================================================= = UUCP: sdcsvax \ Jeffrey T. Carter = = NCR: ncrcae - !ncr-sd!jtc Plant Network Administrator = = ARPA: nosc / NCR E&M San Diego ISS Dept. = = or try jeff.carter@SanDiego.NCR.COM (619)485-2643 = =============================================================================
dick@slvblc.UUCP (Dick Flanagan) (02/13/88)
In article <4114@ptsfa.UUCP> res@ptsfa.UUCP (stockwell-1140galaxy-Bob Stockwell) writes: > Is there a way to terminate Procomm w/o hanging up? Try this: 1. Configure your modem so it does NOT hang up when DTR is dropped. 2. Go to the Modem Setup screen and delete the telephone hangup string (Alt-S, 1, 9) -- it contains a Hayes H0 (hangup) command. 3. Establish your telephone connection. 4. Exit ProComm normally (Alt-X). I have not tried this, but, like all great theories, it sounds good *8-) Dick -- Dick Flanagan, W6OLD GEnie: FLANAGAN UUCP: ...!ucbvax!ucscc!slvblc!dick Voice: +1 408 336 3481 INTERNET: slvblc!dick@ucscc.UCSC.EDU LORAN: N037 05.5 W122 05.2 USPO: PO Box 155, Ben Lomond, CA 95005
john@wa3wbu.UUCP (John Gayman) (02/13/88)
In article <4114@ptsfa.UUCP>, res@ptsfa.UUCP (stockwell-1140galaxy-Bob Stockwell) writes: > Is there a way to terminate Procomm w/o hanging up? I beleive if you option your modem to ignore the state of DTR, you should be able to exit without breaking the connection. The only thing Procomm will do upon exit is sometimes send a BREAK signal to the serial port. John -- John Gayman, WA3WBU | UUCP: uunet!wa3wbu!john 1869 Valley Rd. | ARPA: wa3wbu!john@uunet.UU.NET Marysville, PA 17053 | Packet: WA3WBU @ AK3P
meri@leadsv.UUCP (Ernie Meri) (02/13/88)
In article <4114@ptsfa.UUCP> res@ptsfa.UUCP (stockwell-1140galaxy-Bob Stockwell) writes: > >Is there a way to terminate Procomm w/o hanging up?> >-- Well Bob, I don't know what you exactly mean by "Terminate", but here are some options: (1) A temporary shell escape into DOS : use Alt-F4 (DOS Gateway)... typing "exit" returns you (2) Perform Alt-X (normal exit) while ON-Line, I never tried this but it might work anyway...... Ernie Meri Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc. Sunnyvale, California UUCP: ...!{atlas1, cae780, cfcl, endotsew, esl, excelan, hhb, hoptoad, krent, lll-lcc, mycroft, rtgvax, scampi, sunncal, tdms2}!leadsv!meri INTERNET: ucdavis!lll-lcc!leadsv!meri@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU or meri%leadsv.UUCP@lll-lcc.ARPA
tr@wind.bellcore.com (tom reingold) (02/14/88)
To the person who does not want the modem line to drop when he exits Procomm: It's not too hard to hardwire this. I have done it on a serial port card and I imagine it's just as easy with a modem card. Cut the trace to DTR (data terminal ready) which tells the modem you want it to hold the phone line. Then ground it. I did it with a piece of thin wire. I like terminal programs that don't drop DTR. Also, if you are handy at disassembling, (which I certainly am not) you could find the OUT command which drops DTR and replace it with NOPs. If you are interested in finding out what these statements might look like, I may be able to look it up for you. Tom Reingold INTERNET: tr@bellcore.bellcore.com Bell Communications Research UUCP: rutgers!bellcore!tr 435 South St room 2L350 SOUNDNET: (201) 829-4622 [work] Morristown, NJ 07960 (201) 287-2345 [home]
guest@vu-vlsi.UUCP (visitors) (02/14/88)
res@ptsfa.UUCP (stockwell-1140galaxy-Bob Stockwell) writes: > >Is there a way to terminate Procomm w/o hanging up? You may be able to get around this by resetting your machine via crtl-alt-del. On my machine, at least, this resets the cpu, but the modem never gets reset and stays on line. Not the most graceful way, but it works. ============================================================================== | Mark Schaffer | BITNET: 164485913@vuvaxcom | | Villanova University | UUCP: ...{ihnp4!psuvax1,burdvax,cbmvax,pyrnj,bpa} | | (Go Wildcats!) | !vu-vlsi!excalibur!164485913 | ============================================================================== please respond/reply to the above addresses and not to guest@vu-vlsi.UUCP
msmith@topaz.rutgers.edu (Mark Robert Smith) (02/15/88)
In article <476@slvblc.UUCP> dick@slvblc.UUCP (Dick Flanagan) writes: > In article <4114@ptsfa.UUCP> res@ptsfa.UUCP (stockwell-1140galaxy-Bob Stockwell) writes: > > Is there a way to terminate Procomm w/o hanging up? > Try this: > 1. Configure your modem so it does NOT hang up when DTR is dropped. > 2. Go to the Modem Setup screen and delete the telephone hangup string > (Alt-S, 1, 9) -- it contains a Hayes H0 (hangup) command. > 3. Establish your telephone connection. > 4. Exit ProComm normally (Alt-X). > I have not tried this, but, like all great theories, it sounds good *8-) > Dick You do not need to do step 2. Procomm does not send a Hangup string when it is ended with Alt-X. Mark -- Mark Smith (alias Smitty) "Be careful when looking into the distance, RPO 1604, CN 5063 that you do not miss what is right under your nose." New Brunswick, NJ 08903 {backbone}!rutgers!topaz.rutgers.edu!msmith msmith@topaz.rutgers.edu msmith%topaz.rutgers.edu@CUNYVM.BITNET
mdm@cocktrice.uucp (Mike Mitchell) (02/15/88)
My modem has switches on it for causing the DTR and CD lines to always stay high. When I have the switches set this way, I can do whatever I want to the PC including rebooting, and the modem does not hang up. Procomm drops the DTR line when it exits and this is what causes your modem to hang up. If you don't have the modem switches, you could build a cable which would tie the pins 6, 8, and 20 all together, and then your modem probably would not hang up when you exit. I think the dip switches are a better idea though... -- Mike Mitchell mdm@cocktrice.uucp ...!uunet!dmk3b1!cocktrice!mdm
chan@encore.UUCP (Jerry Chan) (02/16/88)
In article <6137@iuvax.UUCP> bobmon@iuvax.UUCP (Bob, Mon) writes: >res@ptsfa.UUCP (stockwell-1140galaxy-Bob Stockwell) writes: >> >>Is there a way to terminate Procomm w/o hanging up? > >I don't think so, but you can start up a subshell and do (almost) anything >... [stuff deleted] I have done exactly what you were requesting (terminating procomm w/o losing the connection) regularly with no problems, although at times not deliberately (can you say *system crash* ? :-). What you have to do is to set you system up so that the modem does not hang up, whatever it takes. I gather from your description of the problem that exiting your procomm session causes your modem to hang up -- on my system, exiting procomm does nothing like that. I guess your hardware behaves differently -- I don't know, but this should work for you: set the switch settings on your modem to force DTR (Data terminal ready); next time you terminate your session, the modem will remain connected. To reconnect, just execute procomm as you normally do, reset your line settings (if it is different than the default setting) via ALT-P, and, *voila*, you're back in business. Good luck! Jerry Chan
jonl@sco.COM (ScoMole #192-1232A) (02/17/88)
+-I seem to recall res@ptsfa.UUCP (1140galaxy-Bob Stockwell) writing: | | In article <6137@iuvax.UUCP> bobmon@iuvax.UUCP (Bob, Mon) writes: | >res@ptsfa.UUCP (stockwell-1140galaxy-Bob Stockwell) writes: | >> | >>Is there a way to terminate Procomm w/o hanging up? | >I don't think so, but you can start up a subshell and do (almost) anything | >you want within it. (Alt-F4 key.) | >If you really want to dump Procomm, you could: | > 1) Use the widely-available Mark program, before starting Procomm. | > 2) Do your thing in Procomm, then fire up the subshell. | > 3) In the subshell, Release the mark. This will presumably free all | > the occupied memory above the mark, including Procomm (and the | > subshell). | | I use Alt-F4, but sometimes I need to | run a program larger than Procomm leaves for me. | | I tried Mark/Release. | It hung my machine. | However, I was able to do a warm reboot, | which did not hang up my modem. | So your suggestion worked, sort of??? | | Thanks, Bob Stockwell | pacbell!ptsfa!res I was under the impression that you could just ALT-X out of the session, leaving the connection running, and then re-enter and it would recognize that there was still an active connection. I seem to recall doing this, but since i dont use procomm anymore, my mind may be fubar where this is concerned.. ------ jon luini (never logged in) [ fred smith really... im on the run... ] >==============================================================================< || jonl@sco.com /\ ...!{uunet, ihnp4, ucbvax!ucscc}!sco!jonl || || falcon@sonya.ucsc.edu || ...!{ucbvax}!ucscc!sonya!falcon || || falcon@fatou.ucsc.edu || ...!{ucbvax}!ucscc!fatou!falcon || || niteowl@ucscb.ucsc.edu || ...!{ucbvax}!ucscc!ucscb!niteowl || || niteowl@ssyx.ucsc.edu || ...!{ucbvax}!ucscc!ssyx!niteowl || || || || || 302 cypress street || "if its got caps, kill it." || || santa cruz, ca 95062 || the ramblings expressed here are not mine, || || home: 408-423-2917 || they are my evil twin brother, garth luini. || || work: 408-425-7222 \/ -HFV Productions, for a better tomorrow...- || >==============================================================================< "whats the point?" "there is no point, this is BoFf!"
ugfailau@sunybcs.uucp (Fai Lau) (02/18/88)
In article <4122@ptsfa.UUCP> res@ptsfa.UUCP (1140galaxy-Bob Stockwell) writes: > >I tried Mark/Release. >It hung my machine. >However, I was able to do a warm reboot, >which did not hang up my modem. >So your suggestion worked, sort of??? > A quick and dirty way is to disconnect the phone line from Procomm. Exit Procomm, do whatever you want, and boot Procomm back up when you're done. Reconnect the phone line and do a alt-P to set the line and you can pick up whatever you left off. Fai Lau SUNY at Buffalo (The Arctic Wonderland) UU: ..{rutgers,ames}!sunybcs!ugfailau BI: ugfailau@sunybcs INT: ugfailau@joey.cs.buffalo.EDU
ugfailau@sunybcs.uucp (Fai Lau) (02/18/88)
In article <8639@sunybcs.UUCP> ugfailau@joey.UUCP (Fai Lau) writes: >> > A quick and dirty way is to disconnect the phone line from >Procomm. Exit Procomm, do whatever you want, and boot Procomm back up >when you're done. Reconnect the phone line and do a alt-P to set the >line and you can pick up whatever you left off. > !(@$@#( Procomm!!! I think you gotta warm boot the PC since I can't find any way to disconnect Procomm from the damn modem. Fai Lau SUNY at Buffalo (The Arctic Wonderland) UU: ..{rutgers,ames}!sunybcs!ugfailau BI: ugfailau@sunybcs INT: ugfailau@joey.cs.buffalo.EDU
norm@ontenv.UUCP (Norman S. Soley) (02/18/88)
In article <11470024@hpsmtc1.HP.COM>, swh@hpsmtc1.HP.COM (Steve Harrold) writes: > Re: no-hangup when stopping ProComm > > Try looking at the modem configuration menus. I believe that you will find > that there is an item related to a "shutdown" string to be sent to your > modem. If I am correct, change the string to avoid resetting the modem. > This should prevent the "hang-up". Almost, Procomm trys dropping DTR first, then it sends the disconnect string if the CD persists. So in addition to doing what you say you also must teach your modem to ignore DTR. (On many modems this is a DIP switch setting, on others you do it with soft codes) -- Norman Soley - Data Communications Analyst - Ontario Ministry of the Environment UUCP: utzoo!lsuc!ncrcan!---\ VOICE: +1 416 323 2623 {utzoo,utgpu}!sickkids!ontenv!norm ENVOY: N.SOLEY {mnetor,utgpu}!ontmoh/
dick@slvblc.UUCP (Dick Flanagan) (02/19/88)
In article <8640@sunybcs.UUCP> ugfailau@sunybcs.uucp (Fai Lau) writes: >In article <8639@sunybcs.UUCP> ugfailau@joey.UUCP (Fai Lau) writes: >>> >> A quick and dirty way is to disconnect the phone line from >>Procomm. Exit Procomm, do whatever you want, and boot Procomm back up >>when you're done. Reconnect the phone line and do a alt-P to set the >>line and you can pick up whatever you left off. >> > !(@$@#( Procomm!!! I think you gotta warm boot the PC >since I can't find any way to disconnect Procomm from the damn >modem. What are you cussing at Procomm for? It wasn't wrong, you were! ^^^ Dick -- Dick Flanagan, W6OLD GEnie: FLANAGAN UUCP: ...!ucbvax!ucscc!slvblc!dick Voice: +1 408 336 3481 Internet: slvblc!dick@ucscc.UCSC.EDU LORAN: N037 04.7 W122 04.6 USPO: PO Box 155, Ben Lomond, CA 95005
btb@ncoast.UUCP (Brad Banko) (02/21/88)
about terminating procomm without hanging up... can't you just do it the way you can with other terminal programs? (with a Hayes-compatible modem) give a + + + (i'm separating them, so my modem doesn't see them, and then later, when you want to reconnect to that line, you type ATO... -- Brad Banko Columbus, Ohio (formerly ...!decvax!cwruecmp!ncoast!btb) btb%ncoast@mandrill.cwru.edu "The only thing we have to fear on this planet is man." -- Carl Jung, 1875-1961
chaney@ms.uky.edu (Dan Chaney ) (10/19/88)
Hello all.
Using Procomm 242, I am having trouble with the status line on the
bottom of the screen. I like to run a sysline from the mainframe that
tells me various and sundry fun things (time, users, load, etc). This
works just fine except that procomm has this nasty habit of re-writing
*its* sysline (status line) down there too.
Has anyone else had this problem and found a solution or, moreover,
does anyone have a solution? I thought of turning off the status line
but didn't see a nice, quick-and-easy way to accomplish this.
Thanks for any help.
Dan
P.S. - I would even consider moving up to Procomm+ if it can do this....:-)
--
Dan Chaney
{backbones-r-us}!ukma!chaney chaney@ms.uky.edu EXT698@UKCC.BITNET
Disclaimer : The people that would be responsible don't even know I'm on
"Into the night, my children flee; never to fear, never to be" mdm@cocktrice.uucp (Mike Mitchell) (10/21/88)
get a copy of telix 3.0 from your neighboorhood bbs. this has the option of turning off the status line and it is rich with features like procomm including a "c" like script programming language. -- Mike Mitchell mdm@cocktrice.uucp ...!uunet!dmk3b1!cocktrice!mdm
dmurdoch@watdcsu.waterloo.edu (D.J. Murdoch - Statistics) (10/24/88)
In article <318@cocktrice.uucp> mdm@cocktrice.UUCP (0000-Mike Mitchell) writes: >get a copy of telix 3.0 from your neighboorhood bbs. this has the option Better yet - wait a few days until telix 3.1 shows up. It was released last week and fixes a few bugs in 3.0.