[comp.sys.ibm.pc] PS/2 Model 30 Question

jon@chiron.UUCP (Jon L. Griffeth) (11/02/88)

I've a question concerning the PS/2 Model 30.  A friend of mine
is thinking of purchasing one for his family.  However, I have
recently heard that the Model 30 had problems and that IBM has
stopped making them (their being replaced by the Model 35?).
Does anyone know more about this?  Could you suggestion a good
computer for family use at a reasonable price?


Thanks,
Jon L. Griffeth
jon@chiron.UUCP

spolsky-joel@CS.YALE.EDU (Joel Spolsky) (11/04/88)

In article <164@chiron.UUCP> jon@chiron.UUCP (Jon L. Griffeth) writes:
>
>I've a question concerning the PS/2 Model 30.  A friend of mine
>is thinking of purchasing one for his family.  However, I have
>recently heard that the Model 30 had problems and that IBM has
>stopped making them (their being replaced by the Model 35?).

I have a model 30 and am not aware of any problems with it. The new
IBM model is called the 30-286. It's a significant improvement on the
old model 30:

	Model 30		Model 30-286

	MCGA 			VGA
	not-so-standard		truly cool
	graphics		graphics

	720K floppies		1440K floppies

	PC Bus			AT Bus

	8086 CPU		80286 CPU

>Does anyone know more about this?  Could you suggestion a good
>computer for family use at a reasonable price?

What I love about the (old) model 30:

 - brilliant keyboard, if you have the TSR necessary to move the
   CapsLock out of the way. (I'll mail this to anyone who requests
   it.) Excellent, tactile feedback, numeric
   keypad AND cursor control keys, 12 function keys across the top,
   escape key where it belongs, cursor keys in reverse T... I love 
   this keyboard.

 - beautiful black and white monochrome monitor.

 - very compatable. Also seems very reliable - never crashes for
   unexplained reasons.

What I hate about the model 30:

 - if you want to add a hard disk, you have to buy either the official
   IBM upgrade or buy a hardcard. Standard third-party disks don't
   fit in the 3.5" slots.

 - if you want to add a 5.25" floppy, you lose one of the 3.5"
   floppies  (a maximum of 2 floppies of any size is supported).

 - the battery for the clock runs out after about a year, and it's
   soldered in place. bah humbug. When this battery runs out every
   time you turn the damn thing on you get a cute message that the
   date needs to be set, and your computer won't boot until you hit
   F1. Minor irritant.

 - Price. IBM's prices are exhorbant compared to most clones. I got
   mine at the student discount which made it competitive.

I have nothing whatsoever to do with IBM and this does not constitute
an endorsement, in any way, of their products.

>Thanks,
>Jon L. Griffeth
>jon@chiron.UUCP

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driesb@neabbs.UUCP (DRIES BESSELS) (11/05/88)

Hi Jon,
ref the model 30
I think it is a good machine, We use them a lot within our company and
without problems. Basically, it is just an upgraded IBM XT nut it does
it goood....
As for the type of machine, I think you could buy a clone AT for the
same price as this brand XT. Worth thinking about?
BCNU
Dries Bessels
Amsterdam, Holland