[net.general] Orphaned Response

hamilton (08/07/82)

#R:peri:-12800:uicsovax:3300018:37777777600:195
uicsovax!hamilton    Jul 19 02:25:00 1982

on the subject of hypothetical BTLites, can anyone finger Bill Dolson,
who left the U of Ill to work for DEC at BTL circa 1974?
	wayne hamilton ({decvax,ucbvax}!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uicsovax!hamilton)

kolstad (11/01/82)

#R:harpo:800014:uiucdcs:9700022:000:420
uiucdcs!kolstad    Nov  1 09:51:00 1982

I talked with Ed (last name Wraggie) just a few moments ago.

Volume I and 2c are available:  Vol I @ $11.40, 2c @ $9.35.
Must order at least 20.  Prices do NOT include shipping & handling.
He and I figured $40 for shipping a set of 20 of each to Illinois.

To order:  mail (or call him with) your purchase order.  The
first sets should be available at the end of November.  He is not
printing an infinite amount (yet).

bloom@inmet.UUCP (06/30/83)

#R:tesla:-10400:inmet:4100006:177600:138
inmet!bloom    Jun 29 07:01:00 1983

Yes, I agree, how about a mini-tutorial 'bout routing.  Like what's "..." or
how about "{ insert!list!here }".

					Ray
					inmet!bloom

dwp@inmet.UUCP (09/03/83)

#R:hou5a:-38700:inmet:4100013:000:952
inmet!dwp    Sep  2 16:39:00 1983

It's easy to say the old lady shouldn't have a gun, but it's 
not so easy to demonstrate an alternative that leaves her 
unharmed and unrobbed.  In "civilized" countries, where 
the police don't carry guns, like Japan, old ladies don't 
worry about losing their money or their life to some punk 
every time they walk outside.  I do not approve of carrying 
handguns, but I can understand it when I consider what 
she has to face.  Some can afford to live and work where street 
crime is not a constant threat, but not everyone is so lucky.
Old people in particular are up against a wall, and I can 
understand the fear that might make a grandmother carry a gun.
Yes, she threatened the lives of others in the Port Authority
when she waved a gun around there, but how many of of THEM 
cared enough to do anything when she was in trouble.
It was a poor choice on her part to choose a gun, but the
alternative is giving up without a struggle to violence.

preece@uicsl.UUCP (09/05/83)

#R:arizona:-196700:uicsl:5400008:37777777600:98
uicsl!preece    May  4 13:36:00 1983

I thought Linotype machines had a different layout than the
standard typewriter keyboard, anyway.

fitch@inmet.UUCP (03/04/84)

#R:osu-dbs:-49800:inmet:4100030:177600:163
inmet!fitch    Feb 29 12:49:00 1984





   What about net.general-flame?




				Geoff Fitch 
				Intermetrics, Inc.
				733 Concord Ave.
				Cambridge, Mass.
				...{harpo|ima|esquire}!inmet!fitch

judy@ism780.UUCP (05/25/84)

#R:uiucuxc:3300049:ism780:12300003:177600:665
ism780!judy    May 24 12:17:00 1984

There is one important rule to phone answering messages - make them brief.
Mine currently says "You have reached ###-####.  Leave a message."  No
one complains and they all love Ron's announcer voice.

But, my particular favorite message caused me terrible problems.  It began
with the three tones from the telephone company when you call a wrong
number.  It then went "The residence you have reached (###-####)
is currently unoccupied.  If you have reached this residence in error,
please check the number and dial again.  Otherwise, please leave a message."
You'd be surprised the number of people who told me my phone was out of order.
People just don't listen.

mpackard@uok.UUCP (06/20/84)

#R:isrnix:-15400:uok:2600005:37777777600:60
uok!mpackard    Jun 19 20:54:00 1984

He may have taken good pictures but couldn't speak english.

ajs@hpfcla.UUCP (ajs) (07/16/84)

It's not my fault, but let me apologize for the  referenced  article (on
Colorado  14ers) showing up in  net.general.  It appears someone in this
wonderful state is gatewaying  co.general to net.general!!  Perhaps this
explains a lot of the recent (Colorado) postings here.

Whoever is doing the gatewaying, please take corrective action.  Thanks!

Alan Silverstein, Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Systems Division, Colorado
{ihnp4 | hplabs}!hpfcla!ajs, 303-226-3800 x3053, N 40 31'31" W 105 00'43"

woof@hpfcla.UUCP (woof) (09/17/84)

Good point.

(is this on?  phphphphttttt-- test, test. 1 2 3)

peggy@ism70.UUCP (11/23/84)

There is a book called "The Places Rated Almanac" that rates almost 300 major
cities in the United States on a number of factors including economics,
climate, employment outlook, crime, recreation, arts, and more.  It is
invaluable for anyone considering a major move.  I have a copy at home, but
off-hand I am not quite sure who the publisher is.  You can probably find
it at any major bookstore.


Peggy Lerch
INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation

carl@hpcnoe.UUCP (carl) (01/06/85)

I hear the class is highly recommended for those who want to see the
product before it's released.  Also, you can now order something called
the "Network Technical Reference Manual".  I haven't gotten mine yet
so I don't know how good it is.

Carl Dierschow / Hewlett Packard CNO
inhp4!hpfcla!hpcnoe!c_dierschow

james@inmet.UUCP (02/16/85)

I manage a site with several computers from different vendors,
several of which are Vaxen.  My general impression is that 
DEC is overall no better nor worse that the others, with the
exception of Prime (you think DEC s bad; you thing DEC is
expensive....).

The issue you raised is management; remember that DEC field
service management has different objectives than yours.  The
only way to et good field service (we get over 95% uptime on
11/70s and Vaxen) is to manage them yourself..  You have to stay on top
of the problems, make sure appropriate solutions are being
prsued, escalate the problem when required (don't count on
the on-site engineer to escalate) and re-escalate as often
as necessary.  DEC has a set of standards for problem escalaton:
get to know and use those standards.  If you find a particularly
good engineer, call the Branch Manager and demand that he/she
be your on-site person I find aptly timed mention of alternative
service vendors such as CDC, Grumman, etc, to be very helpful

This ofcourse is not a one-way street.  If you want cooperation,
you have to give them a little.  The best thing to do is to
take care of trivial problems yourself- develop a reputation
that your service calls are alys legitimate problems, not
loose wires or software bugs.

There is vailable from Field Service a package called USEP
(unix system environment package(?)), which is designed for
diagnosing unix vs. hardware problems, using DEC's unix.
The only one I have seen is for pdp-11's; if they don't have
one for vaxen, we should start demanding it.  Ultrix has much
more hardware debugging inf, though the real nasty subtle
intermittent stuff is going to be a bitch not matter what...

good luck
----james triplett, Intermetrics

ajs@hpfcla.UUCP (ajs) (04/10/85)

Re: MCI advertising

It might be even more insidious than meets the eye.  Amway recently
signed on with MCI to push the latter's services.  Amway distributors
get bucks back if you sign up for MCI through them.  I suspect the
poster is an Amway distributor attempting to make lots of hidden dollars
from people from all over the Net.

Regardless, the posting was obnoxious and selfish.

Alan Silverstein, Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Systems Division, Colorado
{ihnp4 | hplabs}!hpfcla!ajs, 303-226-3800 x3053, N 40 31'31" W 105 00'43"

marc@hpfcma.UUCP (marc) (04/11/85)

I second that motion -- NO COMMERCIAL MESSAGES on the net (with a possible
exception of BRIEF new product announcements).

		Marc McKenzie
		hpfcla!marc

bill@hpfcms.UUCP (bill) (06/19/85)

>	Once woman B escorts woman A home, who the heck is going to escort
>woman B from A's house back to her own house?

Why, woman C, of course!  :-)