[comp.sys.ibm.pc] 386

mac3n@babbage.acc.virginia.edu (Alex Colvin) (11/23/88)

Would anyone care to offer advice?  (please use mail)

I'm looking for a fast (presumably i386)  PC/AT bus (has to accept PC/AT
peripherals) machine.  I don't care about floating point.  EGA graphics or
better.

Money is a consideration, I can get more of cheap machines.

Any experiences with the Sun 386i?

Are there compilers that use 32bit mode?

A. Colvin                       ...virginia!babbage!mac3n
U.Va. Computer Networks Lab     mac3n@virginia.edu

tkopp@carroll1.UUCP (Tom Kopp) (12/02/88)

In article <417@babbage.acc.virginia.edu>, mac3n@babbage.acc.virginia.edu (Alex Colvin) writes:
> 
> Any experiences with the Sun 386i?

No experience, but the Sun 386i is more than a 386 box.  It is a full UNIX 
compatible workstation with built in networking utilities/hardware, etc.
It is also very expensive.


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joss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Josh Sirota) (12/02/88)

In article <137@carroll1.UUCP> tkopp@carroll1.UUCP (Tom Kopp) writes:
>In article <417@babbage.acc.virginia.edu>, mac3n@babbage.acc.virginia.edu (Alex Colvin) writes:
>> Any experiences with the Sun 386i?
>
>No experience, but the Sun 386i is more than a 386 box.  It is a full UNIX 
>compatible workstation with built in networking utilities/hardware, etc.
>It is also very expensive.

I have lots of experience with the 386i.  I worked for Sun during its
development in the Summer of '87, and then this past summer I had one on my
desk all summer.  Personally I love the thing.  It is a full-fledged Sun
workstation though, that happens to have DOS and some/most PC
compatibility.  It is NOT the other way around - a PC with Sun/UNIX
compatibility.  It's DOS performance will not be up to par with pure DOS
machines because much of it is done in software, running under UNIX and
the Sun windowing system.

As Suns go, it's great.  It's faster and cheaper than most Sun-3s ... and
it's got color for a lot less money, I believe.

I'm not sure why you're asking ... if you're looking for a UNIX workstation
that can do PC stuff, both hardware and software, then this is it.  If you're
looking for a DOS that allows you to use UNIX, then this isn't it.

Josh
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pavlov@hscfvax.harvard.edu (G.Pavlov) (12/05/88)

In article <137@carroll1.UUCP>, tkopp@carroll1.UUCP (Tom Kopp) writes:
> 
> No experience, but the Sun 386i is more than a 386 box.  It is a full UNIX 
> compatible workstation with built in networking utilities/hardware, etc.
> It is also very expensive.
> 
  It is "very expensive" if you are looking to purchase a stand-alone 386-
  based MS/PC DOS machine.  Take your favorite clone and add in the "extras"
  required to equivalence a standard-issue Sun 386i.  I believe that you will
  find the resulting price close to, if not actually exceeding, the price of
  the Sun.

  greg pavlov, fstrf, amherst, ny