[comp.sys.ibm.pc] Seeking VGA Monitor Advice

sac90286@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (11/30/88)

The Princeton UltraSync is a good choice. It has a smaller dot pitch than
the NEC, is smaller overall (12" diagonal screen with correspondingly smaller 
case dimensions) to fit well on a small computer desk hutch (like mine!), and
best of all is CHEAPER than the Multisync. Mine's been running absolutely
trouble free for well over a year of 8 and 10 hour days, so it's also
quite reliable.

idhg0472@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (12/01/88)

It also would be very helpful to look at PC-MAGAZINE,
vol 7 number 10 , May 1988. It contains report of several
different VGA monitors, including NEC & Princeton.

As for me, after looking at this report I bought NEC MultisyncII.

ward@chinet.chi.il.us (Ward Christensen) (12/02/88)

In article <111700011@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> sac90286@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>The Princeton UltraSync is a good choice. 
  Does it auto-size?  One of the least-discussed requirements a VGA
places on a monitor is sizing, vertically, to handle the 350 (EGA emul),
400 (double-scan CGA and text) and 480 (Vga graphics) - so that the picture
fills the screen vertically at all 3 resolutions.  My Magnavox 8CM873
has sadly small EGA - it occupies the middle 350 of 480 possible lines,
and the height control is a small recessed pot in the back.  This is NOT
a good VGA monitor, therefore.

joss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Josh Sirota) (12/03/88)

In article <7052@chinet.chi.il.us> ward@chinet.chi.il.us (Ward Christensen) writes:
>... One of the least-discussed requirements a VGA
>places on a monitor is sizing, vertically, to handle the 350 (EGA emul),
>400 (double-scan CGA and text) and 480 (Vga graphics) - so that the picture
>fills the screen vertically at all 3 resolutions.  My Magnavox 8CM873
>has sadly small EGA - it occupies the middle 350 of 480 possible lines,
>and the height control is a small recessed pot in the back.  This is NOT
>a good VGA monitor, therefore.

I also have a Magnavox 8CM873 and don't experience this problem.  Ward, check
the back of the monitor ... there are *3* pots for vertical size ...  The
middle one is for slow sync, #3 is for medium sync (EGA), and #1 is for fast
sync (VGA).  They all for some reason depend on one another, but try playing
with #3 while you're in 350-row mode.

Note: I'm not sure about the order of the pots ... I don't have the
useless little manual with me (you'll find the explanations in a little
table down on the bottom of one of the pages).

Josh
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mvolo@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Michael R. Volow) (12/03/88)

[deleted stuff about autosizing on VGA monitors]
Have not compared VGA monitors; but my Mitsubishi Diamond Scan
multisync autosizes fine, is somewhat cheaper than the NEC and has
a slightly larger face than the Princeton Ultrasync (but probably 
minimally coarser dot pitch).  I'm satisfied with it.

M Volow, VA Medical Center, Durham NC       lo@ecsvax.UUCP

karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM ([Karl Denninger]) (12/04/88)

The Mitsubishi monitors do auto-size (Diamondscan), and in my experience
have an excellent picture.  We use them mainly in high-res EGA mode though
(640 X 480) with the Paradise adapters; it should be comparable to VGA mode
in that the resolution is the same....

Oh yeah, they do have the prerequisite analog connector on the back too.

simon@ms.uky.edu (Simon Gales) (12/04/88)

In article <[640.6]karl@ddsw1.comp.ibmpc;1> karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM ([Karl Denninger]) writes:
>The Mitsubishi monitors do auto-size (Diamondscan), and in my experience
>have an excellent picture.  We use them mainly in high-res EGA mode though
>(640 X 480) with the Paradise adapters; it should be comparable to VGA mode
>in that the resolution is the same....
>
>Oh yeah, they do have the prerequisite analog connector on the back too.

We have 2 Mitsubishi Diamond Scan monitors in out lab, one is used for 
ega, the other for NTSC (actually PAL) video.  There is a BNC connector 
on the back for using cameras/vcrs, etc.  If you wire up your 25pin cable
the right way, the analog video from the 25pin port is overlaid on th
video from the NTSC.  If anyone is interested I can provide model number
for you.

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rogers@orion.SRC.Honeywell.COM (Brynn Rogers) (12/05/88)

> does the Princton auto-size ?

This is the first I have heard of 'autosize' .
I sit  in front of a princeton 8 hours a day and switch between
VGA and EGA modes on the fly.  it always is lined up for me.
we also switch to a RGB mode for a ATT TARGA-16 card (512x512x16)
and that seems to work great too.
the princeton has vert pos and size and horz pos and size on the back,
but I don't ever need to use them.

Has anyone seen a Packard-Bell Multisync type moniter??
It has good specs and I can get one for $440, 
while the lowest I have seen a ultrasync is $515.
(I will probably bite the bullit and get a ultrasync(princeton).
dd

rps@homxc.UUCP (R.SHARPLES) (12/06/88)

In article <7052@chinet.chi.il.us>, ward@chinet.chi.il.us (Ward Christensen) writes:
> In article <111700011@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> sac90286@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
> >The Princeton UltraSync is a good choice. 
>   Does it auto-size?  One of the least-discussed requirements a VGA
> places on a monitor is sizing, vertically, to handle the 350 (EGA emul),
> 400 (double-scan CGA and text) and 480 (Vga graphics) - so that the picture
> fills the screen vertically at all 3 resolutions.


The Princeton graphics Ultrasynch does autosize.  I have one connected
to a Video7 VEGA VGA and it works beautifully.  One of the nicest things
about it is that it switches modes quietly - no relays, no pops or clicks.
If you weren't looking at it, you wouldn't know it switched modes.

Russ Sharples
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NOTE:

The above in NO WAY reflects the opinions of AT&T.
These opinions are my own and the results of un-scientific and 
highly irregular analysis methods.