[comp.sys.ibm.pc] disk drive/controller question

bruceo@iscuva.ISCS.COM (Bruce Oscarson) (01/04/89)

I just tried to install a MAXTOR model XT-1085 hard disk in my
IBM pc-xt.  I attempted to do a low level format on the drive
by going into debug and issuing: -c800:5.  The system hung.  I
tried the same procedure with the original segate hard disk with
the same results.  I also tried every offset from 0 to 50.
The hard disk controller in my pc-xt is an IBM 1501492.

Any suggestions on how to initiate a low level hard disk format
for this environment?


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hollen@spot.megatek.uucp (Dion Hollenbeck) (01/04/89)

From article <2252@iscuva.ISCS.COM>, by bruceo@iscuva.ISCS.COM (Bruce Oscarson):
> 
> I just tried to install a MAXTOR model XT-1085 hard disk in my
> IBM pc-xt.  I attempted to do a low level format on the drive
> by going into debug and issuing: -c800:5.  The system hung.  I
> tried the same procedure with the original segate hard disk with
> the same results.  I also tried every offset from 0 to 50.
> The hard disk controller in my pc-xt is an IBM 1501492.
> 
> Any suggestions on how to initiate a low level hard disk format
> for this environment?
> 
> 
Some Adeptec controllers use offset 0CCC as the entry point to their
formatting routines.  You could try that.  Please don't take this
as a joke, but have you tried calling IBM?  If they don't give you
any help, you can at least broadcast it to the net, giving them yet
more deserved bad publicity.

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hundt@paul.rutgers.edu (Hundt) (01/05/89)

> > by going into debug and issuing: -c800:5.  The system hung.  I

I would hope you typed "g c800:5".  Try also :3.

> > The hard disk controller in my pc-xt is an IBM 1501492.

> Some Adeptec controllers use offset 0CCC as the entry point to their
> formatting routines.  You could try that.  Please don't take this

Doubt that it would work, IBM doesn't use adaptec, to they?

> as a joke, but have you tried calling IBM?  If they don't give you

Probably better luck calling the company you bought the drive from.
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huilin@hpindda.HP.COM (Hui Lin Lim) (01/05/89)

bruceo@iscuva.ISCS.COM (Bruce Oscarson) writes:
>
>I just tried to install a MAXTOR model XT-1085 hard disk in my
>IBM pc-xt.  I attempted to do a low level format on the drive
>by going into debug and issuing: -c800:5.  The system hung.  I
>tried the same procedure with the original segate hard disk with
>the same results.  I also tried every offset from 0 to 50.
>The hard disk controller in my pc-xt is an IBM 1501492.
>
>Any suggestions on how to initiate a low level hard disk format
>for this environment?

If my memory serves me correctly, I think you need the IBM XT
Advanced Diagnostics diskette which has a low level format
program.  The diskette was provided with the IBM XT Tech Ref
(sorry I don't have the part number handy).


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leonard@bucket.UUCP (Leonard Erickson) (01/05/89)

In article <2252@iscuva.ISCS.COM> bruceo@iscuva.ISCS.COM (Bruce Oscarson) writes:
<I just tried to install a MAXTOR model XT-1085 hard disk in my
<IBM pc-xt.  I attempted to do a low level format on the drive
<by going into debug and issuing: -c800:5.  The system hung.  I
<tried the same procedure with the original segate hard disk with
<the same results.  I also tried every offset from 0 to 50.
<The hard disk controller in my pc-xt is an IBM 1501492.
<
<Any suggestions on how to initiate a low level hard disk format
<for this environment?

Buy a new controller! The controllers IBM put in the XT do *not* have
built-in low level format routines. To do a low level format on an XT
you had to use the Advanced Diagnostics disk *and* set some jumpers to
tell the card what kind of drive was hooked up. <blech>.

I doubt that that controller will support your new drive. Get a Western
Digital controller, say an XT-GEN or the like and *then* that C800:5
address will work.

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hollen@spot.megatek.uucp (Dion Hollenbeck) (01/06/89)

From article <Jan.4.15.31.34.1989.6265@paul.rutgers.edu>, by hundt@paul.rutgers.edu (Hundt):
> 
>> Some Adeptec controllers use offset 0CCC as the entry point to their
>> formatting routines.  You could try that.  Please don't take this
> 
> Doubt that it would work, IBM doesn't use adaptec, to they?
> 
No, IBM does not use Adeptec, but who knows that Adeptec did not
copy some old IBM standard entry offset.  I was merely proposing
another one of the known entry points, one of which might work because
it was some kind of 'standard'.  You are right, though, that this is
highly unlikely, but I would prefer to have as much information
as possible about unknown hardware in order to be able to try all
the possibilities.


	Dion Hollenbeck             (619) 455-5590 x2814
	Megatek Corporation, 9645 Scranton Road, San Diego, CA  92121

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