[comp.sys.ibm.pc] Lil' Jake - a nifty programmer's text editor. Who makes it?????

aiko@cs.odu.edu (John K Hayes) (02/28/89)

Ever heard of Lil' Jake??  It's a really nice text editor written for MS-DOS
that seems to be tailored for editing programs.  I have used it a bit
...but I need to buy another, licensed copy of it.

Problem IS....all I can find on the program itself is:
 
(C) Copyright 1984 by Elizabeth B. Gray

I have no further documentation, and no one around here seems to have heard of
it.  If anyone can tell me who the manufacturer is and/or where I can order
a copy I sure would appreciate it!!!!
Alternatively...(as a last resort)...if you can suggest another convenient
easy text editor for programming on an MS-DOS system, that would be very
nice as well.

Disclaimer: any and all of the above text is soley attributable to myself alone
            and no other organization bears responsibility for its content.

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hardin@hpindda.HP.COM (John Hardin) (03/04/89)

aiko@cs.odu.edu (John K Hayes) writes:
>Alternatively...(as a last resort)...if you can suggest another convenient
>easy text editor for programming on an MS-DOS system, that would be very
>nice as well.
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I strongly recommend you take a look at Brief.  It's available from

    Solution Systems
    541 Main Street
    Suite 410
    So. Weymouth, MA  02190

It's very fast, edits big files (they don't have to fit in memory), it's
easy to learn, customizable, and has terrific online help (I used it for
months before cracking the manual).  You can also compile, link, and
run your programs from within Brief.  

At work I've recently moved from a PC to a Unix workstation. The     
workstation is great for everything, except that it doesn't have
Brief.  For any serious editing I still turn to Brief on a PC an
then upload my source to the workstation.

John Hardin
hardin%hpindda@hplabs.hp.com
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allbery@ncoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery) (03/12/89)

As quoted from <40970006@hpindda.HP.COM> by hardin@hpindda.HP.COM (John Hardin):
+---------------
| At work I've recently moved from a PC to a Unix workstation. The     
| workstation is great for everything, except that it doesn't have
| Brief.  For any serious editing I still turn to Brief on a PC an
| then upload my source to the workstation.
+---------------

Chances are that it *does*, or at least can.  Brief is derived from a Unix
editor called Emacs; and the Gnu version of Emacs runs on virtually
everything and costs only whatever it costs to fetch it from an FTP or UUCP
site.

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hardin@hpindda.HP.COM (John Hardin) (03/16/89)

/ allbery@ncoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: 

>As quoted from <40970006@hpindda.HP.COM> by hardin@hpindda.HP.COM (John Hardin):
>+---------------
>| At work I've recently moved from a PC to a Unix workstation. The     
>| workstation is great for everything, except that it doesn't have
>| Brief.  For any serious editing I still turn to Brief on a PC an
>| then upload my source to the workstation.
>+---------------
>
>Chances are that it *does*, or at least can.  Brief is derived from a Unix
>editor called Emacs; and the Gnu version of Emacs runs on virtually
>everything and costs only whatever it costs to fetch it from an FTP or UUCP
>site.
>
>++Brandon
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I'm really surprised to hear that Brief was derived from Emacs.  My 
frustration with Emacs, which is what I've been using on Unix, is 
what causes me to turn to Brief on the PC for major editing.

John Hardin
hardin@hpindda.hp.com
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dale@oakhill.UUCP (Dale Stevens) (03/17/89)

>I'm really surprised to hear that Brief was derived from Emacs.  My 
>frustration with Emacs, which is what I've been using on Unix, is 
>what causes me to turn to Brief on the PC for major editing.
>
>John Hardin
>hardin@hpindda.hp.com
>----------
I agree.  I would very much like to see a Brief clone on unix!!!
dale

mark@jhereg.Jhereg.MN.ORG (Mark H. Colburn) (03/19/89)

>+---------------
>| At work I've recently moved from a PC to a Unix workstation. The     
>| workstation is great for everything, except that it doesn't have
>| Brief.  For any serious editing I still turn to Brief on a PC an
>| then upload my source to the workstation.
>+---------------

There is a BRIEF clone for UNIX called CRISP which was recently posted
to alt.sources.  If you have Brief on a PC and are frustrated by not
having available for Unix, it might be a good place to start.

Crisp is, for the most part, completely backwards compatable with
Brief, however, there are a few things which you will have to watch
out for when porting macros between the two.

Just thought you might like to know.
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jbayer@ispi.UUCP (Jonathan Bayer) (03/20/89)

In article <1911@apache.oakhill.UUCP> dale@apache.UUCP (Dale Stevens) writes:
>>I'm really surprised to hear that Brief was derived from Emacs.  My 
>>frustration with Emacs, which is what I've been using on Unix, is 
>>what causes me to turn to Brief on the PC for major editing.
>>
>>John Hardin
>>hardin@hpindda.hp.com
>>----------
>I agree.  I would very much like to see a Brief clone on unix!!!
>dale

Look at CRISP which was  recently posted to comp.sources.unix.  It
emulates Brief on Unix.

This is not a recommendation since I haven't tried to use it (I am very
happy with uEMACS)



JB

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