marty1@hounx.ATT.COM (M.B.BRILLIANT) (03/23/89)
From article <15990@oberon.USC.EDU>, posted to comp.os.cpm by mlinar@eve.usc.edu (Mitch Mlinar): > In article <8903201146.AA00867@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> PC3@IB.RL.AC.UK (Paul Clayson) writes: >>Does anybody use Small C? I'm using the CP/M version ..... > > Yep, the documentation is quite clear in what it has as well as what it > is missing. Items *NOT* supported in SmallC v1.2 are: [list deleted] > > For a free compiler and a learning tool (you get the source code), it > is pretty decent. It sounds like a system for the IBM PC I got from a shareware distributor. But the IBM PC version I got came with sample C source programs that would never compile in Small C, and at the end it asked for a $40 fee to use it. For $40 I'd sooner double the ante and get Turbo C. Is there a free IBM version, or is it only free for CP/M? Please don't tell me SIMTEL, AT&T won't talk to SIMTEL. First I want to know whether it exists. M. B. Brilliant Marty AT&T-BL HO 3D-520 (201) 949-1858 Holmdel, NJ 07733 att!homxc!marty Disclaimer: Opinions stated herein are mine unless and until my employer explicitly claims them; then I lose all rights to them.
jerry@donk.UUCP (jerry) (03/24/89)
In article <1294@hounx.ATT.COM> marty1@hounx.ATT.COM (M.B.BRILLIANT) writes: > >It sounds like a system for the IBM PC I got from a shareware >distributor. But the IBM PC version I got came with sample C source >programs that would never compile in Small C, and at the end it asked >for a $40 fee to use it. For $40 I'd sooner double the ante and get >Turbo C. Is there a free IBM version, or is it only free for CP/M? > >Please don't tell me SIMTEL, AT&T won't talk to SIMTEL. First I want >to know whether it exists. > >M. B. Brilliant Marty >AT&T-BL HO 3D-520 (201) 949-1858 >Holmdel, NJ 07733 att!homxc!marty > >Disclaimer: Opinions stated herein are mine unless and until my employer > explicitly claims them; then I lose all rights to them. There is a PD small-c for the IBM PC. I believe it is based on Jim Hendrix's version for CP/M. I pulled both executable and full source from BYTE magazines bulletin board about a year ago. I have been able to re-compile the source code using the executable. Jerry Gaiser Intel Corporation Development Tools Organization *************************************************************************** * * * * * Intel may own me body and soul, but these opinions are MINE. So there. * * * *-------------------------------------------------------------------------* * jerry@orion1.hf.intel.com You can find me either here or * * jerryg@bucket there * *-------------------------------------------------------------------------* * * * Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggie' until you can find a rock. * * * ***************************************************************************
marty1@hounx.ATT.COM (M.B.BRILLIANT) (03/24/89)
From article <276@donk.UUCP>, by jerry@donk.UUCP (jerry): > In article <1294@hounx.ATT.COM> marty1@hounx.ATT.COM (M.B.BRILLIANT) writes: >>.... the IBM PC version I got .... asked for a $40 fee to use it.... > > There is a PD small-c for the IBM PC. I believe it is based on Jim Hendrix's > version for CP/M.... Jim Hendrix has his name on my version, and he wants $20 as a user fee (not $40, I was thinking of something else). Now, does anybody know whether Jim Hendrix actually stopped asking for money for Small-C? If he has a copyright on it, any version based on it (for any operating system) would have to be released by him to be in the public domain. Did he do that? If so, my documentation is obsolete (even though it was on a disk I bought only a few months ago). M. B. Brilliant Marty AT&T-BL HO 3D-520 (201) 949-1858 Holmdel, NJ 07733 att!homxc!marty Disclaimer: Opinions stated herein are mine unless and until my employer explicitly claims them; then I lose all rights to them.
ward@cfa.harvard.EDU (Steve Ward) (03/27/89)
I have the latest Small-C from J. Hendrix. As I read the copyright notice and redistribution restrictions, here is my understanding: (read it yourself to reach your conclusions, but it all seems pretty clear to me) The Small-C modified and authored by J. Hendrix is copyrighted by him. The software can be given away, but not sold. There are no royalty or use restrictions on its output (executables generated). The intent seems to be to share the software source code freely, but strictly for free, while programmers are unhindered in using the generated binaries as they see fit. J. Hendrix encourages registration of holders of the source code. This costs a small fee for which the registered holder of the source code will be placed on a mailing list and notified of new versions and updates, though no maintenance support service is implied here. This arrangement seems reasonable as there is some cost associated with mailing lists and notifications of updates, and the registration fee is small. Registration certainly appears to an option, that is, it is not a license fee in payment for a right to use the software, but a registration fee for a specific, though limited, service. I am not going to claim that this is correct according to the intentions and will of J. Hendrix, but that is my personal understanding after reading through the relevant words in the source code in my possession. Let me point out that J. Hendrix has a pretty nice book about Small-c titled "A Small C Compiler: Language, Usage, Theory, and Design." You can get with it either the CP/M or the MSDOS Small-C source code and registration is automatic. I recommend the book to those who want to use or just play with Small-C. ward@cfa.harvard.edu
keithm@wicat.UUCP (Keith McQueen) (03/28/89)
In article <1450@cfa.cfa.harvard.EDU> ward@cfa.harvard.EDU (Steve Ward) writes: > > [much stuff deleted] > >Let me point out that J. Hendrix has a pretty nice book about Small-c >titled "A Small C Compiler: Language, Usage, Theory, and Design." >You can get with it either the CP/M or the MSDOS Small-C source code >and registration is automatic. I recommend the book to those who >want to use or just play with Small-C. > >ward@cfa.harvard.edu Could you please post the ISBN number of the book (especially the MSDOS version...) so that I could order it through my local bookstore? Thank you! Keith McQueen Wicat Systems, Inc. Orem, Utah
mhendric@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Mitch Hendrickson) (03/31/89)
In article <1302@hounx.ATT.COM> marty1@hounx.ATT.COM (M.B.BRILLIANT) writes: >Now, does anybody know whether Jim Hendrix actually stopped asking for ^^^^^^^??? >money for Small-C? If he has a copyright on it, any version based on ...Why do I have the funny feeling that maybe you'll never find this guy? -Mitch -- Mitch Hendrickson mhendric@jarthur.claremont.edu OR mhendric@jarthur.uucp OR uunet!jarthur!mhendric OR MHENDRICKOSN@HMCVAX (bitnet) USnail: Platt Campus Center, Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robert W Berry) (04/01/89)
From article <645@jarthur.Claremont.EDU>, by mhendric@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Mitch Hendrickson): > In article <1302@hounx.ATT.COM> marty1@hounx.ATT.COM (M.B.BRILLIANT) writes: >>Now, does anybody know whether Jim Hendrix actually stopped asking for > ^^^^^^^??? ... > ...Why do I have the funny feeling that maybe you'll never find this guy? > Jim Hendrix lives in Oxford, MS. (At least he did a year or so ago when I worked on the small C compiler as a class project.) I don't have his current address, but the computer center there would have it for sure. You can try to have them forward it (I'm sure they're going to love having a bunch of mail for him now ;-)!) by sending it to: Jim Hendrix % Computer Center University of Mississippi University, MS 38677 When I was working on the compiler as a project, we got new versions of the code almost weekly. I could send you what I have, but I'm sure it's outdated by several versions. > -Mitch > > -- > Mitch Hendrickson > mhendric@jarthur.claremont.edu OR mhendric@jarthur.uucp OR > uunet!jarthur!mhendric OR MHENDRICKOSN@HMCVAX (bitnet) > USnail: Platt Campus Center, Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711 Hope this helps. Bob -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=- Bob Berry -=- PC-Guru's Inc. ! rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu -=- -=- We are the science of modern motion. ! 803-654-7623 || 803-656-2635 -=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
scott@hpcvca.HP.COM (Scott Linn) (04/02/89)
/ hpcvca:comp.sys.ibm.pc / mhendric@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Mitch Hendrickson) / 12:26 am Mar 31, 1989 / In article <1302@hounx.ATT.COM> marty1@hounx.ATT.COM (M.B.BRILLIANT) writes: >>Now, does anybody know whether Jim Hendrix actually stopped asking for ^^^^^^^??? >>money for Small-C? If he has a copyright on it, any version based on >...Why do I have the funny feeling that maybe you'll never find this guy? >-Mitch >-- >Mitch Hendrickson >mhendric@jarthur.claremont.edu OR mhendric@jarthur.uucp OR >uunet!jarthur!mhendric OR MHENDRICKOSN@HMCVAX (bitnet) >USnail: Platt Campus Center, Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711 >---------- I think I know what you're thinking, but I believe that is the guy's name... Scott Linn
pcm@iwarpj.intel.com (Phil C. Miller) (04/02/89)
In article <645@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> mhendric@jarthur.UUCP (Mitch Hendrickson) writes: >In article <1302@hounx.ATT.COM> marty1@hounx.ATT.COM (M.B.BRILLIANT) writes: >>Now, does anybody know whether Jim Hendrix actually stopped asking for ^^^^^^^??? >>money for Small-C? >...Why do I have the funny feeling that maybe you'll never find this guy? heh, heh. Yes, Jim (not JIMI) Hendrix is his real name. Chances are he's still with us. >-Mitch > >-- >Mitch Hendrickson Phil Miller
allbery@ncoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery) (04/08/89)
As quoted from <4975@hubcap.clemson.edu> by rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robert W Berry): +--------------- | From article <645@jarthur.Claremont.EDU>, by mhendric@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Mitch Hendrickson): | > In article <1302@hounx.ATT.COM> marty1@hounx.ATT.COM (M.B.BRILLIANT) writes: | >>Now, does anybody know whether Jim Hendrix actually stopped asking for | > ^^^^^^^??? | ... | > ...Why do I have the funny feeling that maybe you'll never find this guy? | > | Jim Hendrix lives in Oxford, MS. (At least he did a year or so ago +--------------- There is nothing worse than a joke which goes flat... ...he's referring (jokingly, I assume) to Jimi Hendrix, of course. ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery, moderator of comp.sources.misc allbery@ncoast.org uunet!hal.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery ncoast!allbery@hal.cwru.edu Send comp.sources.misc submissions to comp-sources-misc@<backbone> NCoast Public Access UN*X - (216) 781-6201, 300/1200/2400 baud, login: makeuser