rajohn@hubcap.clemson.edu (r alan johnson) (04/28/89)
I'm interested in some sort of prog or dev. tool that will allow me to write code that I can generate in a PC environment (DOS, not unix) and when then ported to X will run as well. Simply put, I want some sort of way to write X apps (or at least use calls that X will understand) that runs under DOS, without unix, networking, etc. Is this a dumb request? Am I missing something terribly important? Any and all input will be appreciated. Lacking help on this problem, is (are) there any tool(s) that will allow dev. and implementation under DOS that can then be ported easily to a Sun wstation? Again, and and all help! Thanks, R. Alan Johnson (rajohn@hubcap.clemson.edu) p.s. fortran is preferable, but C or some deriv. is OK too.
pajerek@isctsse.UUCP (Don Pajerek) (04/29/89)
In article <5309@hubcap.clemson.edu> rajohn@hubcap.clemson.edu (r alan johnson) writes: >I'm interested in some sort of prog or dev. tool that will allow me to write >code that I can generate in a PC environment (DOS, not unix) and when then >ported to X will run as well. Simply put, I want some sort of >way to write X apps (or at least use calls that X will understand) that runs >under DOS, without unix, networking, etc. Either you're missing something, or I am. Basically, the problem with what you want to do is that X applications employ the 'Client/Server' model; i.e., there are minimally TWO programs running, the client and the server. Now, there's no reason why both can't be running on the same machine, unless that machine happens to be a single-tasking DOS machine. If you really are restricted to PC's, then you will need two networked machines. One of them will run an X server (there are several commercial implementations of the X server for PC's under DOS). The other will run your client applications. > R. Alan Johnson (rajohn@hubcap.clemson.edu) Don Pajerek
paolucci@snll-arpagw.UUCP (Sam Paolucci) (04/30/89)
In article <225@isctsse.UUCP> pajerek@isctsse.UUCP (Donald Pajerek) writes: ->In article <5309@hubcap.clemson.edu> rajohn@hubcap.clemson.edu (r alan johnson) writes: ->>I'm interested in some sort of prog or dev. tool that will allow me to write ->>code that I can generate in a PC environment (DOS, not unix) and when then ->>ported to X will run as well. Simply put, I want some sort of ->>way to write X apps (or at least use calls that X will understand) that runs ->>under DOS, without unix, networking, etc. -> ->Either you're missing something, or I am. Basically, the problem with ->what you want to do is that X applications employ the 'Client/Server' ->model; i.e., there are minimally TWO programs running, the client and ->the server. Now, there's no reason why both can't be running on the same ->machine, unless that machine happens to be a single-tasking DOS machine. -> ->If you really are restricted to PC's, then you will need two networked ->machines. One of them will run an X server (there are several commercial ->implementations of the X server for PC's under DOS). The other will run ->your client applications. Of course, you could also use an Amiga which has a multi-tasking OS and which runs the server and clients at the same time. X11 has just been released on the Amiga, and a bunch of clients are also included. Xlib and the toolkit libraries have been promised in the near future. -- -+= SAM =+- "the best things in life are free" ARPA: paolucci@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov
Dion_L_Johnson@cup.portal.com (05/02/89)
R. Alan Johnson wrote:
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If you really are restricted to PC's, then you will need two networked
machines. One of them will run an X server (there are several commercial
implementations of the X server for PC's under DOS). The other will run
your client applications.
> R. Alan Johnson (rajohn@hubcap.clemson.edu)
Or, if you prefer to avoid networked DOS, there are UNIX
implementations that run on PCs!
SCO is just starting to ship developer versions of SCO Xsight under
SCO UNIX for 386 machines.
- Dion L. Johnson (dion_l_johnson@cup.portal.com)
Don Pajerekwaynec@hpnmdla.HP.COM (Wayne Cannon) (05/13/89)
I think everyone has missed R. Alan Johnson's point (or else I did). It sure seems to me that you could have a windowing/graphics library with the same interface as Xlib running under a single-tasking DOS such that the same client code could be compiled and run in the DOS environment and also in a true X environment. It would certainly have to be restricted to a single functional window at a time as MS-Windows 286 and Quarterdeck's windowing system have done.
Ralf.Brown@B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU (05/14/89)
In article <340002@hpnmdla.HP.COM>, waynec@hpnmdla.HP.COM (Wayne Cannon) writes: }I think everyone has missed R. Alan Johnson's point (or else I did). It }sure seems to me that you could have a windowing/graphics library with }the same interface as Xlib running under a single-tasking DOS such that }the same client code could be compiled and run in the DOS environment }and also in a true X environment. It would certainly have to be }restricted to a single functional window at a time as MS-Windows 286 and }Quarterdeck's windowing system have done. Whaddaya mean, "single functional window"? There's no problem writing programs for Quarterdeck's DESQview that use multiple windows simultaneously, even interleaving I/O to multiple windows, some or all of which may be at least partially obscured. I imagine MS-Windows is the same. -- UUCP: {ucbvax,harvard}!cs.cmu.edu!ralf -=-=-=- Voice: (412) 268-3053 (school) ARPA: ralf@cs.cmu.edu BIT: ralf%cs.cmu.edu@CMUCCVMA FIDO: Ralf Brown 1:129/31 Disclaimer? I claimed something? Intelligence is when you spot a flaw in your boss's reasoning. Wisdom is when you refrain from pointing it out. --James Dent