[comp.sys.ibm.pc] 2ST-251-1 + 1:1RLL = Success!

gatesl@romana.cs.orst.edu (Lee Ryan Gates) (05/18/89)

  Well, in followup to the discussions about ARLL and RLLing ST-251's, i am 
posting what I decided on.  I figure the Perstor would probably not be worth
the extra 120$ (300 vs. 180) for the little bit of extra space, and having to
compromise the 1:1 interleave.  Today I got the DTC 1:1 RLL controller.  All
went well, transfer rate climbed to 659kb/s from the MFM 2:1's 239kb/s, it
formatted the 42.7mb to 65mb, and found the same if less errors in formatting.

  I am quite pleased with the outcome.  I got some responses from others on the
net before, all positive.  The only requirement one person noted (from a 
previous disscussion) is that the window margin on the spec sheet from Seagate
had to be < 60ns, mine was in the 30-40 range, so no problems.  The only 
negative information I found was in Computer Shopper in which a guy wrote in
that he had RLL'ed a Miniscribe 3650 (standard MFM drive), then 4 months later
had a software crash in which the drive lost all data.  I have gotten respose
from others who have done the same thing with 251's with success, so I am not
very worried (I will keep frequent backups however).

  Just thought I would inform you to my decision, and outcome.  Please let me
know if you have any comments or questions.

  lee
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karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM ([Karl Denninger]) (05/19/89)

>Item 3376 (0 responses) by gatesl at romana on Thu 18 May 89 12:36
>[Lee Ryan Gates]    Subject: 2ST-251-1 + 1:1RLL = Success!

>had to be < 60ns, mine was in the 30-40 range, so no problems.  The only 
>negative information I found was in Computer Shopper in which a guy wrote in
>that he had RLL'ed a Miniscribe 3650 (standard MFM drive), then 4 months later

>had a software crash in which the drive lost all data.  I have gotten respose

Yeah, but he probably would have taken that hit in MFM mode too....

The Miniscribe 3650s are known to be pieces of junk, or at least were a year 
or so back.  No idea how they are now; we aren't about to try again.

One thing to watch out for -- Northgate used to use these monsters in their 
machines, with RLL controllers.  No idea what they use now.  I wonder what 
their failure rate on these drives has been like.

An ST251 is just a ST277R without the higher level certification; if you 
want the ability to return it to your dealer if there is a problem 6 months 
down the road get the 277R; they're not that much more expensive ($75 or 
so), and probably worth the piece of mind.

If you already have the ST251, you've nothing to lose.  Go for it.  Nearly 
95% of those we have tried have worked fine, and our experience goes back 
over a year.  No failures yet (save one head crash which decidedly was not 
due to anything related to the encoding method).

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