[comp.sys.ibm.pc] Procomm Plus question...

rdj@ttrdf.UUCP (Robert D. Jackson) (03/02/88)

I have been "Test Driving" Procomm Plus, and have a problem.
I use Crosstalk all the time set to 9600,N,8,1 and it works
great on a direct connect to Unix.  My terminal is also set
to this with no probelm.  I set Procomm Plus to the same thing 
and it gets brain damaged (i.e. prints characters that are not 
recognizably English).  It seems to works better when I set it 
to 7 data bits.  Don't you need 8 data bits to use XMODEM?  I 
thought I read that somewhere.  Is Crosstalk just a more robust
package?  Is Procomm right and just not very robust?  What is
the deal here?

Thanks in advance,

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wnp@dcs.UUCP (Wolf N. Paul) (03/04/88)

In article <335@ttrdf.UUCP> rdj@ttrdf.UUCP (Robert D. Jackson) writes:
>
>I have been "Test Driving" Procomm Plus, and have a problem.
>I use Crosstalk all the time set to 9600,N,8,1 and it works
>great on a direct connect to Unix.  My terminal is also set
>to this with no probelm.  I set Procomm Plus to the same thing 
>and it gets brain damaged (i.e. prints characters that are not 
>recognizably English).  It seems to works better when I set it 
>to 7 data bits.  Don't you need 8 data bits to use XMODEM?  I 
>thought I read that somewhere.  Is Crosstalk just a more robust
>package?  Is Procomm right and just not very robust?  What is
>the deal here?

I don't know Crosstalk so can't comment on it. However, if you use
Procomm (either Plus or 2.4.2) in 7-bit mode, it will AUTOMATICALLY
switch to 8 bits when you start transferring a file with XMODEM or
one of the other 8-bit protocols.

I suspect that Procomm and Crosstalk handle the UART configuration 
differently, but can't be sure. Most UNIX systems, unless you specifically
tell them otherwise using stty or one of the system calls, run in 
7bit, even parity mode, therefore Procomm is consistent in not working
too well at 8N. UNIX Xmodem programs also will temporarily switch their
tty to 8N during a transfer, and restore original conditions when they
exit.
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cc1@valhalla.cs.ucla.edu (Max Kislik) (05/18/89)

Does anyone know how to make Procomm Plus recongnize the busy signal 
of the phone line like procomm 2.4.2 used to be able to do?

I am using PCplustd.

max.

rra90329@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (05/19/89)

If your setup is like mine, Procomm doesn't come with the right
initalization string. You need to add something to the modem initalizetion
string to tell the modem that it should respond to a busy signal. I forget
what the string is for Hayes compatable, but I found it easily in my
modem manual.
Hope this helps.
Randy

malloy@nprdc.arpa (Sean Malloy) (05/20/89)

In article <24032@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> cc1@cs.ucla.edu (Max Kislik) writes:
>Does anyone know how to make Procomm Plus recongnize the busy signal 
>of the phone line like procomm 2.4.2 used to be able to do?

Caveat: This advice is only good for Hayes-compatible modems.

You should go into Setup, select Modem Setup, and check your modem
init string (should be the top option on the screen). If your modem
init string doesn't have the command 'X4' in it, or has 'X0' or 'X1',
change it so it does (mine has it right before 'S11=55'). [useful tip:
once you select the modem init string to change, you can use the
cursor keys to slide the cursor over to where you want to change;
characters typed overwrite the characters on the line, but you can
press the <INS> key to make them insert instead]

The 'X4' command tells the modem to return all of the text strings
'BUSY', 'NO DIAL TONE', 'VOICE', 'CONNECT', 'CONNECT 1200', and
'CONNECT 2400', which Procomm+ uses to recognize connections or failed
connections.


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bob@consult.UUCP (Bob Willey) (05/23/89)

In article <24032@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> cc1@cs.ucla.edu (Max Kislik) writes:
>Does anyone know how to make Procomm Plus recongnize the busy signal 
>of the phone line like procomm 2.4.2 used to be able to do?
>
>I am using PCplustd.


The easiest solution would be to upgrade to the commercial version
of ProComm + which is now up to V1.1B and will recognize busy signal
just fine.  There is also a new version of the old procom (2.4.3) out.
Hope this helps.

bvickers@ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) (05/24/89)

In article <20@consult.UUCP> uunet!consult!bob (Bob Willey) writes:
 >In article <24032@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> cc1@cs.ucla.edu (Max Kislik) writes:
 >>Does anyone know how to make Procomm Plus recongnize the busy signal 
 >>of the phone line like procomm 2.4.2 used to be able to do?
 >>
 >>I am using PCplustd.
 >
 >
 >The easiest solution would be to upgrade to the commercial version
 >of ProComm + which is now up to V1.1B and will recognize busy signal
 >just fine.  There is also a new version of the old procom (2.4.3) out.
 >Hope this helps.

This isn't necessarily true.   I think the problem is that Bob hasn't
got a "v1" in his modem initialization string.  Stick the V1 in and the
modem will send the verbose Modem Strings which Procomm recognizes.

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yon@apollo.COM (David Yon) (06/02/89)

Yet another Procomm question on the net...

I'm currently using Procomm 2.4.2, and have gotten into some
fairly sophisticated CMD file usage.  I'm running into some
serious limitations that I have some questions about.

VARIABLES:
	The only way I know of to assign values to variables is
to either get them from the user, set them in the script, or 
get them from the host.  I would like to be able to also fetch
them from a file or be able to put the return code from a DOS
executable in them.

ASCII UPLOADS:
	The ASCII upload is brain-damaged.  The only way that an
ASCII upload will stop is through the ESC key.  I've tried several
different things including an EOF mark in the file.  No matter
what I do, Procomm will send the entire file, then just sit there
waiting for you to press ESC.  You would think that Procomm would
detect that it has no more data in the file to send, and just
stop the upload there!  Oh well...

Are either of these problems fixed in Procomm Plus?  I have heard
that the command language has been extended, but I don't know
exactly what has been upgraded.  Can anyone out there with access
to Procomm Plus answer this question??

Thanks in advance...

David Yon

wek@point.UUCP (Bill Kuykendall) (06/06/89)

>	The only way I know of to assign values to variables is
>to either get them from the user, set them in the script, or 
>get them from the host.  I would like to be able to also fetch
>them from a file or be able to put the return code from a DOS
>executable in them.

Procomm Plus has file handling and integer math (wow, iterative loops at
last) and addresses a number of other shortcomings in the Procomm 2.4x CMD
language.  It also has a few new bugs in it's terminal emulation and host
mode operation.

I can't speak to your question about ascii file transfers.  I haven't used
that feature much in either version.

mrcheezy@pnet51.cts.com (Steve Anderson) (06/09/89)

wek@point.UUCP (Bill Kuykendall) writes:
>>	The only way I know of to assign values to variables is
>>to either get them from the user, set them in the script, or 
>>get them from the host.  I would like to be able to also fetch
>>them from a file or be able to put the return code from a DOS
>>executable in them.
>
>Procomm Plus has file handling and integer math (wow, iterative loops at
>last) and addresses a number of other shortcomings in the Procomm 2.4x CMD
>language.  It also has a few new bugs in it's terminal emulation and host
>mode operation.
>
>I can't speak to your question about ascii file transfers.  I haven't used
>that feature much in either version.


I have come across the very same question about variables in Procomm Plus.  If
anyone has the information, please do tell!!


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