brooke@ingr.com (Brooke King) (06/20/89)
A friend has a couple of SCO XENIX AT's (a '286 and a '386). He'd like to send e-mail over phone lines to associates who don't want to change from using DOS. Is UUCP available for DOS (stranger things have been true!)? Are simple file transfers the way to go? Suggestions? -- J. Brooke King brooke@ingr.com uunet!ingr!brooke W+1 205 7727796 H+1 205 8950824
uri@arnor.UUCP (Uri Blumenthal) (06/29/89)
As far as I know, there's uucp version for DOS, it's called UUPC, it's floating around this network. Hope somebody who keeps it, will whow up. Uri.
chris@zorin.UUCP (Christopher Nielsen) (07/01/89)
In article <190@arnor.UUCP>, uri@arnor.UUCP (Uri Blumenthal) writes: > As far as I know, there's uucp version for DOS, it's called UUPC, it's > floating around this network. Hope somebody who keeps it, will whow up. > > Uri. Also Tim Pozar of Late Night Software 415-695-7727 has a package called UFGATE. It is really a uucp-fido gateway, on a DOS machine. I got it to do uucp transfers to a unix machine, and I'm in the process of evaluating it... I can send more if you wish... It looks fairly complete, and includes mail/news reader, and compress. Also, Lauren Weinstein has a package called UULINK. I don't know that much about it, but I talked to him, and he seems quite knowlegable. Price for UFGATE is $30 donation for personal use, $199 for commercial, but he can tell you the details. He will send the executable version for the asking. UULINK is $335. Christopher A. Nielsen ////////////////// Zorin Data Systems, Inc //// P.O. Box 5669 Santa Monica, CA 90405-0669 //// (213) 399-3804 x 45 //// UUCP: randvax!zorin!info //// <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Zorin... "The Future OnLine" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < Online Product Information and other services - Call or write for free demo >
pozar@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Pozar) (07/05/89)
In article <185@zorin.UUCP> chris@zorin.UUCP (Christopher Nielsen) writes: >Also Tim Pozar of Late Night Software 415-695-7727 has a package called >UFGATE. >[...] > >Price for UFGATE is $30 donation for personal use, $199 for commercial, >but he can tell you the details. He will send the executable version for >the asking. UULINK is $335. Actually its FREE for non-commercial, non-supported use, $35 for supported, non-commercial use, and $195 for commercial sites. Tim -- ...sun!hoptoad!\ Tim Pozar >fidogate!pozar Fido: 1:125/406 ...lll-winken!/ PaBell: (415) 788-3904 USNail: KKSF / 77 Maiden Lane / San Francisco CA 94108
uri@arnor.UUCP (Uri Blumenthal) (07/05/89)
From article <185@zorin.UUCP>, by chris@zorin.UUCP (Christopher Nielsen): > > Price for UFGATE is $30 donation for personal use, $199 for commercial, > but he can tell you the details. He will send the executable version for > the asking. UULINK is $335. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Well, that's exactly what I didn't mean. First - it's not for me, I just repliedto someone's asking for help. Second - UULINK for $335 doesn't look like UUPC for grant at all - does it? I thought I said clearly: please, those who keep UUPC or know where it is - show up! Well, UULINK may be a good package - but I doubt if somebody with access to both will chose that one. Anyway, thanks for informing about one more product. Hope it will be helpful for somebody (I mean somebody who either hates PD Software, or has extra $335 and doesn't want to send it to me just for fun, or needs something which is not provided in UUPC, but is implemented in UULINK). Regards, Uri.
daveh@marob.masa.com (Dave Hammond) (07/07/89)
In article <208@arnor.UUCP> uri@arnor.UUCP (Uri Blumenthal) writes: >[.........................] I thought I said clearly: please, those who keep >UUPC or know where it is - show up! UUPC [and a great many more pd packages] can be downloaded from marob, by logging in with the 'xbbs' username. The dialup number is (212) 675-7059, for 2400/1200 baud connections. I believe a 9600 baud line is available -- you can inquire with the system administrator, Bob Clifford (clifford@marob.masa.com). -- Dave Hammond daveh@marob.masa.com
det@hawkmoon.MN.ORG (Derek E. Terveer) (07/07/89)
In article <190@arnor.UUCP>, uri@arnor.UUCP (Uri Blumenthal) writes: > As far as I know, there's uucp version for DOS, it's called UUPC, it's > floating around this network. Hope somebody who keeps it, will whow up. Yes, indeed, there is a hacked up version of UUPC (called PCmail) that is floating around on the network. Our group has a working version of PCmail that is available for download, etc, from the server on nimbus.elric.Sp.Unisys.COM. The best thing to do is to boot strap yourself by sending the mail message: send help to <your domain address> to: pcmail-request@nimbus.elric.Sp.Unisys.COM This will send a file of help explaining how to get other things from the archive server. There is a set of 4 floppies somewhere in the archive that comprises the installation floppies and its been hacked up into several pieces. Look for readme files that have been sparingly scattered throughout the archive. PLEASE NOTE!!!!! This server is actually a smallish PC (20M disk) running PCmail and dos, so DON'T flood the poor thing with requests!!!!!! If you do I will arbitrarily kill off randomly selected uucp jobs so that i will be able to get my job done..... (:-( If you want, for example, the entire set of 4 installation floppies, please request only a few chunks a day. Source code is also available. Note also that this software is still actively evolving, so if you get a non-working or working binary now, you may be able to check back in a month or two or three and discover a better version has been installed in the archive. derek -- Derek Terveer det@hawkmoon.MN.ORG || ..!uunet!rosevax!elric!hawkmoon!det w(612)681-6986 h(612)789-8643 "A proper king is crowned" -- Thomas B. Costain
thomas@mvac23.UUCP (Thomas Lapp) (07/08/89)
> > the asking. UULINK is $335. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > Well, that's exactly what I didn't mean. First - it's not for me, I just repliedto someone's asking for help. Second - UULINK for $335 doesn't look like UUPC > for grant at all - does it? I thought I said clearly: please, those who keep > UUPC or know where it is - show up! Well, UULINK may be a good package - but > I doubt if somebody with access to both will chose that one. Anyway, thanks Wrong. As you can see by mail header, mvac23 is running UULINK. The system also ran UUPC for 6 months before installing UULINK. Believe me, the difference is great. UUPC is basically for one machine, one user. UULINK is for multiple PC's connected by phone or direct link, and support multiple accounts per machine (of course you DO have to buy a copy for each machine, but $335 is quantity one pricing). So with UULINK, you can set up your own uucp network, and at the same time, connect with outside world and give all machines net.access. I've tried both, and like UULINK a lot better. Only thing mission from UULINK IMHO is a program for receiving news and reading it in a manner a la 'vn' or 'nn'. But, hey, it can still read and send Usenet news if you give it a file in a form it likes.... - tom ============================================================================== uucp: ...!udel!mvac23!thomas ! Internet: mvac23!thomas@udel.edu Location: Newark, DE, USA ! or mvac23%thomas@udel.edu ==============================================================================
chris@zorin.UUCP (Christopher Nielsen) (07/10/89)
Well, I know UULINK at $335 is much, but it includes some kind of cron, and
other stuff. I don't have the flyer in front of me.., so yes, it may have
stuff not supported in other packages, or work better... For those of you
that wanted more info, here's where to find out more (my replies bounced)..
Lauren Weinstein (author of UULINK)
Vortex Technology
PO Box 1323
Topanga, CA 90290-1323
213-455-9300
J. Brooke King asked 'what's a fido'... Well I don't know much about it,
but it is something similar to usenet, but much smaller scale.. I think it
comes out of bbs systems.
Christopher A. Nielsen
////////////////// Zorin Data Systems, Inc
//// P.O. Box 5669 Santa Monica, CA 90405-0669
//// (213) 399-3804 x 45
//// UUCP: randvax!zorin!info
////
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Zorin... "The Future OnLine" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
< Online Product Information and other services - Call or write for free demo >chris@utgard.uucp (Chris Anderson) (07/11/89)
In article <186@zorin.UUCP> chris@zorin.UUCP (Christopher Nielsen) writes: > >Well, I know UULINK at $335 is much, but it includes some kind of cron, and >other stuff. I don't have the flyer in front of me.., so yes, it may have >stuff not supported in other packages, or work better... For those of you UULINK does support mail between DOS and unix systems. Domain addressing, aliases, uucp, etc. are all there. My impressions of it are generally good (we use it for communications between a Novell network and a Unix system). The cron, however, was something of a disappointment to me. Here I was expecting some neat TSR or something to keep time in the background; all it is is a foreground program that you run. Jeez! *I* could have done that!!! :) All in all, it's a good package. Well worth checking out... Chris -- | Chris Anderson, | | QMA, Inc. email : {csusac,sactoh0}!utgard!chris | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Of *course* I speak for my employer, would he have it any other way? |
kgordon@brandx.rutgers.edu (Ken Gordon) (07/11/89)
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kji@vpnet.UUCP (Ken Isacson) (07/11/89)
There also is uucp MSDOS version called uupc. I am experimenting with it right now.
uri@arnor.UUCP (Uri Blumenthal) (07/11/89)
From article <1989Jul10.151727.19523@utgard.uucp>, by chris@utgard.uucp (Chris Anderson): > UULINK does support mail between DOS and unix systems. Domain addressing, > ............................ > All in all, it's a good package. Well worth checking out... > No doubts. But I DO ADVISE to check out UUPC first - it may save you some cash - about $335 or whatever. Uri.
jpr@dasys1.UUCP (Jean-Pierre Radley) (07/12/89)
In article <24B392F6.433@marob.masa.com> daveh@marob.masa.com (Dave Hammond) writes: >UUPC [and a great many more pd packages] can be downloaded from marob, >by logging in with the 'xbbs' username. The dialup number is (212) 675-7059, >for 2400/1200 baud connections. Both DOS and Unix programs are available on marob for downloading. >I believe a 9600 baud line is available -- you can inquire with the >system administrator, Bob Clifford (clifford@marob.masa.com). The Trailblazer number is (212) 675-8438 -- Jean-Pierre Radley CIS: 72160,1341 jpr@jpradley.UUCP
thomas@mvac23.UUCP (Thomas Lapp) (07/19/89)
> J. Brooke King asked 'what's a fido'... Well I don't know much about it, > but it is something similar to usenet, but much smaller scale.. I think it > comes out of bbs systems. You are right that it comes out of BBS's. It is a network of PC-BBSs which exchange mail somewhat like UUCP does. However, rather than being any-to- any the way UUCP is, FidoNet is more like a hirearchical structure. Individual nodes communicate with hub nodes which communicate with 'super-hub' nodes, (they may be called regional nodes). They are sort of like backbone nodes. - tom ============================================================================== uucp: ...!udel!mvac23!thomas ! Internet: mvac23!thomas@udel.edu Location: Newark, DE, USA ! or mvac23%thomas@udel.edu ==============================================================================
steve@conch.uunet (Steve Froeschke) (07/20/89)
In article <56.UUL1.3#5131@mvac23.UUCP> mvac23!thomas@udel.edu writes: >> J. Brooke King asked 'what's a fido'... Well I don't know much about it, >> but it is something similar to usenet, but much smaller scale.. I think it >> comes out of bbs systems. > >You are right that it comes out of BBS's. It is a network of PC-BBSs which >exchange mail somewhat like UUCP does. However, rather than being any-to- >any the way UUCP is, FidoNet is more like a hirearchical structure. Individual >nodes communicate with hub nodes which communicate with 'super-hub' nodes, >(they may be called regional nodes). They are sort of like backbone nodes. > Tom, you're partially correct. :-) Fidonet systems are run under PC/MSDOS machines, running quite a variety of BBS software. They can however either send mail direct to the receipient (spelling?!?) or via the 'host'. If they send to their host, that host will send to the receipient's host, who will in turn send it to the destination machine. Echomail (something like the newsgroups here), is sent from local > hub > regional hub > backbone .... and so on down the line (or up the line!) I just left Fidonet and joined uunet. When I left Fido, there where quite a few systems around the world. (I'd hate to even put a number count!) But, to sum up, Fido is to MS/PCDOS what Unix/Xenix (and the others!) are to usenet. Steve Froeschke | uunet!conch!steve 1408D Rickett Circle Key West FL 33040
Ralf.Brown@B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU (08/15/89)
In article <56.UUL1.3#5131@mvac23.UUCP>, thomas@mvac23.UUCP (Thomas Lapp) wrote: }> J. Brooke King asked 'what's a fido'... Well I don't know much about it, }> but it is something similar to usenet, but much smaller scale.. I think it }> comes out of bbs systems. } }You are right that it comes out of BBS's. It is a network of PC-BBSs which }exchange mail somewhat like UUCP does. However, rather than being any-to- }any the way UUCP is, FidoNet is more like a hirearchical structure. Individual }nodes communicate with hub nodes which communicate with 'super-hub' nodes, }(they may be called regional nodes). They are sort of like backbone nodes. While that is true in most cases for EchoMail (the equivalent of netnews), lots of email gets sent point-to-point, and all file transfers are point-to-point (any system can call any other). This is very much like UUCP nettiquette, where you should retrieve large files by directly dialing the system from which you are getting them, instead of forcing other systems to pay for transmission. BTW, FIDOnet is not all that much smaller than USEnet--about 5500 nodes versus 15,000--and is growing at a furious pace (doubling about every 18 months). Also, there are lots and lots of nodes not in the IFNA nodelist which exchange email and EchoMail using FIDOnet protocols (AlterNet, Good Egg Net, RBBS-Net, TBBS systems, etc), so there could easily be eight or nine thousand systems altogether. -- UUCP: {ucbvax,harvard}!cs.cmu.edu!ralf -=-=-=-=- Voice: (412) 268-3053 (school) ARPA: ralf@cs.cmu.edu BIT: ralf%cs.cmu.edu@CMUCCVMA FIDO: Ralf Brown 1:129/46 FAX: available on request Disclaimer? I claimed something? PROGRAM n. A magic spell cast over a computer allowing it to turn one's input into error messages. tr.v. To engage in a pastime similar to banging one's head against a wall, but with fewer opportunies for reward. -- from a flyer advertising for _Inside_Turbo_Pascal_