[comp.sys.ibm.pc] DTK expansion-RS232-port pinout wanted

michaelk@copper.MDP.TEK.COM (Michael D. Kersenbrock) (08/02/89)

A DTK Hex I/O card, like many other cards, has room for a second 8250
chip and a pair of RS232 interface chips.  The manual is silent, however,
about the pinout of the ten-square-pin connector.  Does anyone know
the pinout of that connector -- like "which RS232 signals are on which pin"?

Thanks in advance (sounds so trite, but what can I say?).....


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Tektronix Microprocessor Development Products
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Aloha, Oregon

Howard.Spindel@p8.f14.n105.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Howard Spindel) (08/05/89)

> From: michaelk@copper.MDP.TEK.COM (Michael D. Kersenbrock)
> Date: 1 Aug 89 18:24:44 GMT
> Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.
> Message-ID: <3374@copper.MDP.TEK.COM>
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc
> 
> A DTK Hex I/O card, like many other cards, has room for a
> second 8250
> chip and a pair of RS232 interface chips.  The manual is
> silent, however,
> about the pinout of the ten-square-pin connector.  Does
> anyone know
> the pinout of that connector -- like "which RS232 signals
> are on which pin"?
> 
> Thanks in advance (sounds so trite, but what can I
> say?).....
> 
> 
> --
> Mike Kersenbrock
> Tektronix Microprocessor Development Products
> michaelk@copper.MDP.TEK.COM
> Aloha, Oregon
Most of these boards are set up so that you just run a ribbon cable to a squeeze on type DB-25 connector.  If there are less pins on the header on the circuit board than on the DB-25 align the pin 1 designations.  Don't know for sure if the DTK board is this way but all of the others I have seen are.


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leonard@bucket.UUCP (Leonard Erickson) (08/05/89)

michaelk@copper.MDP.TEK.COM (Michael D. Kersenbrock) writes:

<A DTK Hex I/O card, like many other cards, has room for a second 8250
<chip and a pair of RS232 interface chips.  The manual is silent, however,
<about the pinout of the ten-square-pin connector.  Does anyone know
<the pinout of that connector -- like "which RS232 signals are on which pin"?

They map directly to a "standard" 9-pin D-shell connector. The pinout of
*that* was standardized by the AT (trans. I don't have it handy)

But just wire them straight to a 9-pin connector and it should work. 
-- 
Leonard Erickson		...!tektronix!reed!percival!bucket!leonard
CIS: [70465,203]
"I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools.
Let's start with typewriters." -- Solomon Short

rogers@pavo.SRC.Honeywell.COM (Brynn Rogers) (08/07/89)

In article <1601@bucket.UUCP> leonard@bucket.UUCP (Leonard Erickson) writes:
<michaelk@copper.MDP.TEK.COM (Michael D. Kersenbrock) writes:

<<A DTK Hex I/O card, like many other cards, has room for a second 8250
<<chip and a pair of RS232 interface chips.  The manual is silent, however,
<<about the pinout of the ten-square-pin connector.  Does anyone know
<<the pinout of that connector -- like "which RS232 signals are on which pin"?

<They map directly to a "standard" 9-pin D-shell connector. The pinout of
<*that* was standardized by the AT (trans. I don't have it handy)

<But just wire them straight to a 9-pin connector and it should work. 

  Sorry, I am pretty sure this is not that simple because I made one of these
for my DTK serial port.  I ohmed all the pins out and made up 3 conversion 
tables and my setup actually worked the first time ( amazing after three
translations).

  I will open my machine tonight and get the pinout of what I have there
that works.  It is possible that I have a non-standerd 9 -pin to ribbon 
cable, but I will check it out. (it is molded in plastic so I can't see.)



 Brynn Rogers    Honeywell S&RC        rogers@src.honeywell.com
 work 612-782-7577 home 874-7737  

rogers@mandrake.SRC.Honeywell.COM (Brynn Rogers) (08/07/89)

In article <1601@bucket.UUCP> leonard@bucket.UUCP (Leonard Erickson) writes:
<michaelk@copper.MDP.TEK.COM (Michael D. Kersenbrock) writes:

<<A DTK Hex I/O card, like many other cards, has room for a second 8250
<<chip and a pair of RS232 interface chips.  The manual is silent, however,
<<about the pinout of the ten-square-pin connector.  Does anyone know
<<the pinout of that connector -- like "which RS232 signals are on which pin"?

<They map directly to a "standard" 9-pin D-shell connector. The pinout of
<*that* was standardized by the AT (trans. I don't have it handy)

<But just wire them straight to a 9-pin connector and it should work. 


   Here is the pinout for my serial expansion that I got with my DTK.
The manual that came with it says it is a KW-509 made by KOUWEI electric.
This may or may not be the same as a DTK serial port, so check it out.
(of course the manual has nothing usefull in it like this pinout which
I got by ohming it out)

10-pin header    9 pin DB shell ( male )
--------------   -----------------
     1              5
     2              3
     3              2
     4              7
     5              NC 
     6              8
     7              6
     8              4
     9              9
     10             NC

Notes:  pin 1 of the 9-pin DB is not connected., it is actually chassis ground.
        pin 1 of the 10-pin header is towards the edge of the board.


 Brynn Rogers    Honeywell S&RC        rogers@src.honeywell.com
 work 612-782-7577 home 874-7737  

michaelk@copper.MDP.TEK.COM (Michael D. Kersenbrock) (08/17/89)

>
><A DTK Hex I/O card, like many other cards, has room for a second 8250
><chip and a pair of RS232 interface chips.  The manual is silent, however,
><about the pinout of the ten-square-pin connector.  Does anyone know
><the pinout of that connector -- like "which RS232 signals are on which pin"?
>
>They map directly to a "standard" 9-pin D-shell connector. The pinout of
>*that* was standardized by the AT (trans. I don't have it handy)
>
>But just wire them straight to a 9-pin connector and it should work. 
>-- 
>Leonard Erickson		...!tektronix!reed!percival!bucket!leonard
>CIS: [70465,203]
>"I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools.
>Let's start with typewriters." -- Solomon Short


Thank you to all who answered.  Some went through quite a bit of effort
to help.  The straight-through answer (AT-style) is what I thought of
first, and it didn't work.  I suspected, there must be some other
"standard", so I asked the net before having to ohm-out the board to see
where things went.

The straight-though answer was very close.  One very important pin is
different though.  Ground is "supposed" to be on pin-5, but on this DTK
card (Hex I/O), ground is on pin-10, and pin-5 is a no-connect.  :-)

I had to make the insulation-displacement connector have 8 consecutive
wires, then shift the 9th wire over one "place".  Alternatively I could
have used a 10-conductor cable.  (I was modifying a "bought" pre-made cable
that didn't work -- it was wired "straight through").

Sigh -- the trivial simple things seem to take up more time than the
complicated things.....

-- 
Mike Kersenbrock
Tektronix Microprocessor Development Products
michaelk@copper.MDP.TEK.COM
Aloha, Oregon