dmurdoch@watstat.waterloo.edu (Duncan Murdoch) (08/24/89)
I've just got a new ATI VGA Wonder card, and am using it with a NEC Multisync 3D monitor. My problem is that the ATI card doesn't consistently recognize the monitor as a Multisync: about half the time, it thinks I have an EGA, and the other half, a Multisync. Does anyone else out there with this combination know about any settings in either place that will fix this? The NEC manual doesn't mention ATI, and the ATI doesn't mention the 3D, so I don't have any direct instructions on how to set either one up. What I've done is to tell the card I have a Multisync, and set the monitor with "Mode" on, and "Color" auto, but other settings work just as well on the monitor, and the card seems to be ignoring what I tell it. Alternatively, does anyone know of any way in software to tell the ATI card that I've got a different type of monitor than it sensed? Once it thinks I have an EGA, it refuses to act as a VGA, even if I run the VCONFIG program. Duncan Murdoch dmurdoch@watstat.waterloo.edu
gcw20877@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (G. Wang) (08/31/89)
In article <411@maytag.waterloo.edu> dmurdoch@watstat.waterloo.edu (Duncan Murdoch) writes: > >I've just got a new ATI VGA Wonder card, and am using it with a NEC Multisync >3D monitor. My problem is that the ATI card doesn't consistently >recognize the monitor as a Multisync: about half the time, it thinks I >have an EGA, and the other half, a Multisync. > >Does anyone else out there with this combination know about any settings >in either place that will fix this? The NEC manual doesn't mention ATI, >and the ATI doesn't mention the 3D, so I don't have any direct instructions >on how to set either one up. What I've done is to tell the card I have >a Multisync, and set the monitor with "Mode" on, and "Color" auto, but >other settings work just as well on the monitor, and the card seems to be >ignoring what I tell it. > >Alternatively, does anyone know of any way in software to tell the ATI card >that I've got a different type of monitor than it sensed? Once it thinks >I have an EGA, it refuses to act as a VGA, even if I run the VCONFIG program. > I also have an ATI VGA Wonder card with BIOS V3M-1.03... I use it with a Goldstar Superscan 1440 with no problems... However, sometimes the cable conntecting to the card gets loose and as a result the computer boots up in the wrong mode, EGA mode as you stated.. What I do then is re-adjust the cable and then re-boot the computer (A cold boot not warm) and it works fine... As for configuring the card, the program you want to use is VSETUP *NOT* VCONFIG... Vsetup will do the low-level settings such as monitor type, boot up video mode, mouse port, etc... VCONFIG is to be used once you have all the hardware settings correct (say you just want to change the current video mode to EGA, CGA or HERC)... The manual does a fairly good job of explaining which files do what... Hope this helps. George Wang University of Illinois Gcw20877@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
dmurdoch@watstat.waterloo.edu (Duncan Murdoch) (08/31/89)
In article <1895@garcon.cso.uiuc.edu> gcw20877@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (G. Wang) writes: >In article <411@maytag.waterloo.edu> dmurdoch@watstat.waterloo.edu (Duncan Murdoch) writes: >> >>I've just got a new ATI VGA Wonder card, and am using it with a NEC Multisync >>3D monitor. My problem is that the ATI card doesn't consistently >>recognize the monitor as a Multisync: about half the time, it thinks I >>have an EGA, and the other half, a Multisync. >I also have an ATI VGA Wonder card with BIOS V3M-1.03... I use it >with a Goldstar Superscan 1440 with no problems... However, sometimes >the cable conntecting to the card gets loose and as a result the computer >boots up in the wrong mode, EGA mode as you stated.. What I do then is >re-adjust the cable and then re-boot the computer (A cold boot not warm) >and it works fine... I may have a cable problem, but it's quite tightly attached - I even did up the screws, to no effect. An ATI techie told me that some NEC cables have pins pushed in, and lo and behold, mine did. Fixing it didn't help, though. >As for configuring the card, the program you want to use is VSETUP >*NOT* VCONFIG... Vsetup will do the low-level settings such as monitor >type, boot up video mode, mouse port, etc... VCONFIG is to be used >once you have all the hardware settings correct (say you just want >to change the current video mode to EGA, CGA or HERC)... Actually, it appears that VSETUP only sets things that the card can't figure out for itself. Since it thinks it knows I have an EGA (sometimes), it ignores the fact that I told it I have a Multisync. I think it uses this information to distinguish among all the Multisync types, but only when it thinks it has to. But, I finally got a solution from ATI. There's an _undocumented_ option to VCONFIG that allows you to override the monitor detection. What I use is VCONFIG MONITOR MULTISYNC in my Autoexec, and when the card comes up as an EGA, it stops and waits while I "switch monitors", then comes up again as a Multisync. If it recognized the Multisync first off, then nothing goes wrong. >The manual does a fairly good job of explaining which files do what... Except for the undocumented stuff... :-( Thanks for your suggestions, and also thanks to everyone who responded via email. Now all I want to know is what the video formats are - the manual says the extended modes are all stored the same as VGA 320x200x256, but that's all stored in a single page. Can you (or anyone else) tell me how the card splits up pixels across the 64K pages? Duncan Murdoch
mcdonald@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu (09/01/89)
The three NEC Multisync monitors I have all have pins at the computer end of the cable which have flat ends. On two occasions these have pushed the little sockets in the computer very far back, so that if the plug gets a little loose it loses contact. The solution is to examine the socket and carefully fix if necessary. (This happened on Dell 310's). Doug MCDonald