eli@spdcc.COM (Steve Elias) (08/28/89)
avoid the seagate 20M/30M and st251. their performance specs
are a bunch of crap. the 251-1s are not true 28ms drives.
if you don't care about access time, then check this:
the 251s are known to refuse to spin up on alternate thursdays. (randomly).
a quick rap with a hammer usually fixes the problem! do you want to
trust your data to seagate? NO!
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/* send email and the destination fax number... */rommel@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Kai-Uwe Rommel) (09/01/89)
In article <4420@ursa-major.SPDCC.COM> eli@ursa-major.spdcc.COM (Steve Elias) writes: >avoid the seagate 20M/30M and st251. their performance specs >are a bunch of crap. the 251-1s are not true 28ms drives. >if you don't care about access time, then check this: > >the 251s are known to refuse to spin up on alternate thursdays. (randomly). >a quick rap with a hammer usually fixes the problem! do you want to >trust your data to seagate? NO! > ... Steve Elias (eli@spdcc.com);6178906844;6178591389; {} I wonder if you ever tested an ST-251. I used a ST-251 for over a year before I changed to a ST-4096 because of more capacity needed. The machine with the 251 run for about a year 5 days of week for about 3 or 4 hours every day, sometimes more (up to 12 hours a day). Over this time I did not have any problems with the disk (It now runs in another machine without any problems too). Several performance measuring programs said it has an random access time of about 25ms (!). With an WD-1006 the ST-251 has a data transfer rate (at interleave 1:1) of about 400k per second with an 10Mhz AT. I know some other people running such disks, none of them had ever problems with an ST-251. I think there were one or two new ones, that did not work from the beginning, but if ST-251's worked for a week, they did never had any failures. Of course there are disks that are better, faster ... and more expensive !! And the most expensive disks crash somtimes too. If you ever write an article here about harddisks again, please be more objective. Kai Uwe Rommel
sac90286@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kubla Khan) (09/05/89)
On the subject of ST-251s, a few months back talk was rampant in the trade press of a serious lapse in Seagate's quality control. It seems that many resellers and distributors were reporting a high failure rate on low end Seagates, not just the ST-251s. Lately, however, they have been tightening things back up to the point where the reported failures are back within the same range as the other manufacturers. I have a ST-251-1 in my 386 at home, and my prior employer has several ST-251s which have run 24 hours/day with not one problem (this over a period of several months). All of these drives have been purchased within the last year. Reports from dealers and distributors also seem to indicate that Seagate has its act together again. I would recommend to anyone that Seagate drives be seriously considered as a possible upgrade path. IMHO, they offer good performance at an excellent price. #ifdef SUSPICIOUS_READER #define DISCLAIMER "I have no affiliation with Seagate." #endif Scott kubla@uiuc.edu