jdm@hodge.UUCP (jdm) (09/02/89)
I just happened to notice that the SA (Screen Attributes) program, which was present in every version of the Norton Utilities up to and including 4.0, is missing from 4.5! Why was SA removed from distribution? -- "I'm an anthropologist, not a computer systems architect, damit!" jdm@hodge.cts.com [uunet zardoz crash]!hodge!jdm James D. Murray, Ethnounixologist TEL: (714) 998-7750 Ext. 129 Hodge Computer Research Corporation FAX: (714) 921-8038 1588 North Batavia Street Orange, California 92667 USA
cpcahil@virtech.UUCP (Conor P. Cahill) (09/02/89)
In article <21760@hodge.UUCP>, jdm@hodge.UUCP (jdm) writes: > > I just happened to notice that the SA (Screen Attributes) > program, which was present in every version of the Norton > Utilities up to and including 4.0, is missing from 4.5! > > Why was SA removed from distribution? It sort of wasn't removed. For some reason (I can't figure out why) they decided that the SA command was batch file enhancement command and therefore they decided to include the support for the command in the BE command. The current usage is the same as the previous usage with the exception that it is preceded by a BE as follows: BE SA [bright|bold|Underline] foreground [ON background] The only possible reason that I can think of is that the distribution diskette space was getting real tight so they combined the commands to reduce the amount of disk space used up. I haven't reviewed my diskettes to see if this is true so who knows (or really cares). -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Conor P. Cahill uunet!virtech!cpcahil 703-430-9247 ! | Virtual Technologies Inc., P. O. Box 876, Sterling, VA 22170 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
silver@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Andy Silverman) (09/02/89)
SA was removed because the NCC Norton Control Center program provides the same function and more. +----------------+-----------------------------------------+ | Andy Silverman | Internet: silver@eniac.seas.upenn.edu | | "Why?" | Compu$erve: 72261,531 | +----------------+-----------------------------------------+
andyross@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Andrew Rossmann) (09/02/89)
>Item: 5284 by jdm at hodge.UUCP (0 responses) > Subj: WHat happened to Norton's SA? > > I just happened to notice that the SA (Screen Attributes) > program, which was present in every version of the Norton > Utilities up to and including 4.0, is missing from 4.5! > Why was SA removed from distribution? > >jdm@hodge.cts.com [uunet zardoz crash]!hodge!jdm The SA part of Nortons has been moved into the Batch Enhancer program (BE). I believe the sytntax is the same but you call it using 'BE SA [params]'. Andrew Rossmann andyross@ddsw1.MCS.COM
ts@chyde.uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi LASK) (09/03/89)
In article <14038@netnews.upenn.edu> silver@eniac.seas.upenn.edu.UUCP (Andy Silverman) writes: >SA was removed because the NCC Norton Control Center program provides the >same function and more. Maybe so, but not as conveniently.
c60c-4ab@web-4e.berkeley.edu (09/03/89)
In article <14038@netnews.upenn.edu> silver@eniac.seas.upenn.edu.UUCP (Andy Silverman) writes: >SA was removed because the NCC Norton Control Center program provides the >same function and more. > Actually, SA has been incorporated in full into BE (Batch Enhancer). Just type BE SA [old SA command] and all will be as it was. Scott
silver@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Andy Silverman) (09/03/89)
In article <739@chyde.uwasa.fi> ts@chyde.uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi LASK) writes: >In article <14038@netnews.upenn.edu> silver@eniac.seas.upenn.edu.UUCP (Andy Silverman) writes: >>SA was removed because the NCC Norton Control Center program provides the >>same function and more. > >Maybe so, but not as conveniently. Definitely not as conveniently. But then again, you can use Batch Enhancer as well, and just type BE SA whatever, and you get the same thing... +-----------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | Andy Silverman | Internet: silver@eniac.seas.upenn.edu | | "All stressed out and | Compu$erve: 72261,531 | | nobody to choke." | | +-----------------------+-----------------------------------------+
mosley@peyote.cactus.org (Bob Mosley III) (09/03/89)
In article <21760@hodge.UUCP>, jdm@hodge.UUCP (jdm) writes: > > I just happened to notice that the SA (Screen Attributes) > program, which was present in every version of the Norton > Utilities up to and including 4.0, is missing from 4.5! > > Why was SA removed from distribution? > ...probably because it violates Norton's basic philosophy concerning screen colors (which, incedentally, was lifted from Henry Ford): "You can have Norton Utilities in any color you wish, so long as it's white on blue." ...either he's color blind, or a jerk, one. OM
simon@ms.uky.edu (G. Simon Gales) (09/05/89)
There are two ways to set colors in the Norton Utilities now, SA has been
moved to the batch enhancer, or you can use NCC.
To use the old SA just replace SA with BE SA, the options are the same.
To use NCC, call up NCC and play with the menues. You can save your
favorite setting to a file, and initialize from that file by doing a
NCC myfile /SETALL. (Press F2 to save settings in NCC).
--
Simon Gales@The University of Kentucky
simon@ms.uky.edu | 'Fate... protects fools, little children,
simon@UKMA.BITNET | and ships named Enterprise.'
{rutgers, uunet}!ukma!simon | - Riker, ST:TNGmlawless@ncrwic.Wichita.NCR.COM (Mike Lawless) (09/05/89)
In article <21760@hodge.UUCP> jdm@hodge.UUCP (jdm) writes: > > I just happened to notice that the SA (Screen Attributes) > program, which was present in every version of the Norton > Utilities up to and including 4.0, is missing from 4.5! Take another look at your documentation; the function of SA, along with several other pre-4.5 programs, has been incorporated into BE (Batch Enhancer), along with several new functions. -- Mike Lawless, NCR E&M Wichita, Box 20 (316) 636-8666 (NCR: 654-8666) 3718 N. Rock Road, Wichita, KS 67226 Mike.Lawless@Wichita.NCR.COM {ece-csc,hubcap,gould,rtech}!ncrcae!ncrwic!Mike.Lawless {sdcsvax,cbatt,dcdwest,nosc.ARPA}!ncr-sd!ncrwic!Mike.Lawless
rh26@prism.gatech.EDU (Robert L. Howard) (09/06/89)
In article <5538@ncrwic.Wichita.NCR.COM> mlawless@ncrwic.UUCP (Mike Lawless) writes: =In article <21760@hodge.UUCP> jdm@hodge.UUCP (jdm) writes: => => I just happened to notice that the SA (Screen Attributes) => program, which was present in every version of the Norton => Utilities up to and including 4.0, is missing from 4.5! = =Take another look at your documentation; the function of SA, along with ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |_ I wonder if this isn't the problem.... How many questions posted to this newsgroup are easily found in the documentation, *if* the poster had it!?!? In other words, should I spend my time answering questions for people that don't even have the software licensed? Please note (hopefully) that I am not singling out or attempting to accuse jdm specifically. After all, he may have just ignored the new program (BE) while looking for old favorites (SA, etc.) I am just using this particular question to see how you guys feel. =several other pre-4.5 programs, has been incorporated into BE (Batch =Enhancer), along with several new functions. Just a thought, Robert -- Robert L. Howard (GTRI/STL/MSD) (404) 421-7165 Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!rh26 Internet: rh26@prism.gatech.edu