[comp.sys.ibm.pc] Anyone tried the new MKS Toolkit version?

rac@sherpa.uucp (Roger A. Cornelius) (09/06/89)

I got a flyer from MKS announcing the new Toolkit version a couple
of days ago.  Has anyone tried it yet?  Have they fixed the vi mode
command line editing bugs?  How well does the transient ksh work?
Are there any restrictions on using it in the transient mode?
What's the mailer look like (I assume it's compatible with Unix mailx
since they gave it the same name), and is there any functionality to it
under dos, ie. will it work with uupc?  Is the tar Unix compatible?

Roger
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spcecdt@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Space Cadet) (09/06/89)

In article <144@sherpa.uucp> rac@sherpa.uucp (Roger A. Cornelius) writes:
>How well does the transient ksh work?

    What is "transient ksh"?  How much are they charging for the MKS
utilities now?

	John DuBois
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las) (09/07/89)

In article <9006@saturn.ucsc.edu} spcecdt@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Space Cadet) writes:
}In article <144@sherpa.uucp} rac@sherpa.uucp (Roger A. Cornelius) writes:
}}How well does the transient ksh work?

}    What is "transient ksh"?  How much are they charging for the MKS
}utilities now?

Transient ksh - the shell will optionally release much of the memory it is
using when you execute a program.  It reloads itself from disk upon term-
nation of the called program.  According to the flyer, this increases 
memory for your programs by 64K.

As for the price: hold on to your hat... $249.  Upgrade price is $69.

regards, Larry
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cbema!las@cbnews.ATT.COM (cbema!las) writes:
< spcecdt@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Space Cadet) writes:
< } rac@sherpa.uucp (Roger A. Cornelius) writes:
< }} How well does the transient ksh work?
< } What is "transient ksh"?  How much are they charging for the MKS
< } utilities now?
< 
< Transient ksh - the shell will optionally release much of the memory it is
< using when you execute a program.  It reloads itself from disk upon term-
< nation of the called program.  According to the flyer, this increases 
< memory for your programs by 64K.

We just got our upgrade yesterday, and I've spent a little time fiddling
with the transient shell.  What it does is swap 64K worth of code into
any address you like (the default is the highest available conventional
RAM).  After your application program exits, the remaining shell code
looks at the RAM where the swap occured, and, if it passes a checksum,
swaps it back.  If it FAILS, the code will be reloaded from disk.  As an
option, you can instruct the shell to reload from an alternate disk file
(which could be a copy of sh.exe on a ram disk).

< As for the price: hold on to your hat... $249.  Upgrade price is $69.

Or, you could get it free :-), if you pay the annual maintenance fee to MKS.
This is actually not a bad thing.  We've gotten 3 "free" upgrades in the
last 2 years, and all have included a typesettable manual (as part of our
site license).

There are lots of other new goodies in the toolkit as well, including
mailx (?), a floating point version of awk, some POSIX tools, tar, the
uucode brothers, and a few others.

I like it, but then, I'm easily amused.

< Signed: Larry A. Shurr (cbema!las@att.ATT.COM or att!cbema!las)

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