[net.movies] Saavik on ST2

dww (06/11/82)

No one has yet noted that "Saavik" fits the template of masculine
names (like Spock and Sarek) rather better than it fits the template
of feminine names (like T'Pau and T'Pring).  Maybe Saavik is supposed
to be male?  Or is this an illusion produced by seeing Victor/Victoria
too soon before ST2?
                     David Wall, Penn State (allegra!psuvax!dww)

Physics:crl (06/12/82)

Without reading the novelization for enlightenment, I have the impression
that Saavik is not Vulcan, at least not pure Vulcan.  In places she exhibited
far too much emotion:  one, she was disturbed enough in the simulation to
say "Damn!" and then she was visibly upset that her performance was not
as good as she wanted.

Charles LaBrec

pdh@sri-unix (06/14/82)

(minor spoiler)...

I am told that, according to the novelization, Saavik is half Romulan, half
Vulcan.  This explained the *Romulan* ears she had.

Anyone have any good ideas as to how Spock returns?  I have one, but will not
divulge it until I've heard some others... Mail to me, and I'll summarize
to the net...

				Peter

bob (06/14/82)

    Another thing that I noticed that may also indicate that she is not
pure Vulcan is that during Spock's funeral there were tears running
down her face. A Vulcan should not demonstrate that much emotion.

	Bob Lawson (decvax!utzoo!utcsstat!bob)

laura (06/15/82)

	After just seeing ST2, I must say that Mr. Saavik did not act as a
Vulcan in the same way that Spock consistantly did.  Perhps there have been
social changes on Vulcan, or perhaps there are regional differences.
Actually, I think that Saavik is half Romulan, and Spock and she may even
have spoken in Romulan with him.                                        
	If Saavik is Vulcan then I think that her behvior was too emotional
in the movie -- unless of course, she is a Vulcan raised on earth who did
not have the cultural background to inhibit/strengthen (depending on your
planet of origin) her -- thus, although prizing logic to the point of not
appreciating humor (at least Kirk's brand of it), she can demonstrate
annoyance at the no-win training mission (and Kirk's solution to it)
and grief at Spock's death.  
	The whole thing would work out very nicely if Saavik was Spock's
daughter by the Romulan Commander in the episode (whose name I have forgotten)
with the cloaking device, but then I am probably asking too much.

					laura creighton
					decvax!utzoo!laura