[comp.sys.ibm.pc] Norton Utils Question

davidg@uns-helios.nevada.edu (Davig Gonzales) (10/19/89)

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Hello,
	I am having a bit of a problem understanding the use of Speed Disk
(SD) under Norton Utilities 4.5. I can use the program without too much
trouble but my hard disk is slowly being filled with files that cannot be
moved (the X's in SD disk map). My question is, what can cause the creation
of these files and how does one get rid of them? The manual made mention of
copyprotected software but I am running only non-copyprotected software or
programs that were developed elsewhere. Thanx,

						David A. Gonzales

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jwbirdsa@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (James Webster Birdsall) (10/19/89)

In article <927@unsvax.NEVADA.EDU> davidg@uns-helios.uucp (Davig Gonzales) writes:
>	I am having a bit of a problem understanding the use of Speed Disk
>(SD) under Norton Utilities 4.5. I can use the program without too much
>trouble but my hard disk is slowly being filled with files that cannot be
>moved (the X's in SD disk map). My question is, what can cause the creation
>of these files and how does one get rid of them? 
>						David A. Gonzales

   I had a problem very much like this; on one of my disks, a huge hunk
of space was marked unmovable despite the fact that it wasn't a bootable
disk, nor was I using any copy-protected software. After a couple of
weeks of looking at this off and on and vaguely wondering what was going
on, I realized that it was a huge file that I'd made hidden in order to
keep it from appearing in DIR.
   I changed the attribute back to visible and the X's disappeared.
Apparently SD assumes that any file or directory with odd attributes
probably should be left alone (which isn't a really unreasonable
assumption). It sounds like some program you have is creating hidden
files.
   Hope this helps.



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kens@hplsla.HP.COM (Ken Snyder) (10/20/89)

I've noticed that my system also developed unmovable files but on closer
examination they all turned out to be the data/log files for some of the
games I had on my system.   I have no idea why they were marked as non-
movable but I reset them using SD and let them be moved and everything
still seemed to work.  I think some software simply marks files incorrectly.

Ken

austin@bucsf.bu.edu (Austin Ziegler) (10/20/89)

>>>>> On 19 Oct 89 17:39:25 GMT, kens@hplsla.HP.COM (Ken Snyder) said:

Ken> I've noticed that my system also developed unmovable files but on
Ken> closer examination they all turned out to be the data/log files for
Ken> some of the games I had on my system.  I have no idea why they were
Ken> marked as non- movable but I reset them using SD and let them be moved
Ken> and everything still seemed to work.  I think some software simply
Ken> marks files incorrectly.


   I just realized the difference of what everyone is saying.  An Unmovable
file is a file that CAN be moved but you are telling SD *not* to move.  A
static file is a hidden, read-only, or system file or directory.  That
might clear some of the confusion.  You can clear the Unmovable files, but
the Static files have to have the hrs bits removed.  

Ken> Ken

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