terrell@cadnetix.COM (10/18/89)
Internationalization of Computer Software (CALENDARS) A couple of months I started a discussion on the "internationalization" of software. I received numerous excellent suggestions about paper sizes, time and date formats, format of floating point numbers (and the radix character), and some machine-specific tips (support full 8 bit character sets, etc.) I have another question, about calendars: which day should be in the leftmost column? Is Sunday always in the leftmost column everywhere? Is Sunday always in the leftmost column in the USA? If the answer is no - which other day(s) should be in the leftmost column: Monday? Just Monday? Thanks in advance, Eric Terrell
davef@brspyr1.BRS.Com (Dave Fiske) (10/19/89)
In article <9953@cadnetix.COM>, terrell@cadnetix.COM writes: > > I have another question, about calendars: which day should be in the > leftmost column? Is Sunday always in the leftmost column everywhere? Is > Sunday always in the leftmost column in the USA? If the answer is no - > which other day(s) should be in the leftmost column: Monday? Just > Monday? Calendars in the Soviet Union are quite different from ours: The days run down the left side, and the weeks run across. I think their week begins with Sunday, but I wouldn't swear to that. Example: Su 1 8 ... etc. Mo 2 9 Tu 3 10 We 4 11 Th 5 12 Fr 6 13 Sa 7 14 -- "ANGRY WOMEN BEAT UP SHOE SALESMAN Dave Fiske (davef@brspyr1.BRS.COM) WHO POSED AS GYNECOLOGIST" Home: David_A_Fiske@cup.portal.com Headline from Weekly World News CIS: 75415,163 GEnie: davef
robing@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Robin Gape) (10/19/89)
In article <9953@cadnetix.COM>, by terrell@cadnetix.COM: > > Internationalization of Computer Software (CALENDARS) > [deleted] > > I have another question, about calendars: which day should be in the > leftmost column? Is Sunday always in the leftmost column everywhere? Is > Sunday always in the leftmost column in the USA? If the answer is no - > which other day(s) should be in the leftmost column: Monday? Just > Monday? > > Thanks in advance, > > Eric Terrell I've just looked at some U.K (England, Scotland, Wales & N. Ireland) calendars. One has columns, leftmost Monday. The majority have ROWS topmost Monday. The only one that starts on a Sunday is from Motorola. E.G (Jan 89) M 2 9 16 T 3 10 17 W 4 11 18 ............... Hope this helps Robin Gape robing@uk.co.bt.galadriel
suhonen@tukki.jyu.fi (Timo Suhonen) (10/20/89)
In article <9953@cadnetix.COM> terrell@cadnetix.COM () writes: >I have another question, about calendars: which day should be in the >leftmost column? Is Sunday always in the leftmost column everywhere? Is >Sunday always in the leftmost column in the USA? If the answer is no - >which other day(s) should be in the leftmost column: Monday? Just >Monday? Al least in Finland Monday is the leftmost column. Timo -- Timo Suhonen suhonen@tukki.jyu.fi Disclaimer: The text above is from my left brain cell. The right one is for SeX and Drugs and Rock'n Roll. Al K. Hall has eaten the others...
ct@dde.dk (Claus Tondering) (10/24/89)
terrell@cadnetix.COM writes: >I have another question, about calendars: which day should be in the >leftmost column? Is Sunday always in the leftmost column everywhere? Is >Sunday always in the leftmost column in the USA? If the answer is no - >which other day(s) should be in the leftmost column: Monday? Just >Monday? I believe there is an international standard (made some time in the mid-1970s) stating that the first day of the week is Monday. Very un-Biblical. As usual, the English-speaking countries have decided not to follow the international standard. :-) I don't blame them, this one is quite silly. -- Claus Tondering Dansk Data Elektronik A/S, Herlev, Denmark E-mail: ct@dde.dk or ...!uunet!mcvax!dkuug!dde!ct
schaper@pnet51.orb.mn.org (S Schaper) (10/25/89)
Actually it is a variant of certain Protestant views that since Sunday is the
new Sabbath, then Monday should be the first day of the week. I remember
seeing in my childhood a few calendars that started that way. I don't know
precisely which groups promote that view.
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INET: schaper@pnet51.cts.comgriesel@umn-cs.CS.UMN.EDU (Curtis W. Griesel) (10/25/89)
In article <716@Aragorn.dde.dk> ct@dde.dk (Claus Tondering) writes: >terrell@cadnetix.COM writes: >I have another question, about calendars: which day should be in the >leftmost column? Is Sunday always in the leftmost column everywhere? Is >Sunday always in the leftmost column in the USA? If the answer is no - >which other day(s) should be in the leftmost column: Monday? Just >Monday? There may be international standards around, but if you want your software to be _culturally_ acceptable, you'll find a lot of variability. Generally, Europe puts Monday first, U.S. puts Sunday first, the Middle East put Saturday first. There are probably other variations; I would imagine that Asian cultures would have a different outlook on things. Monday is first; in the U.S., its us -- Curtis W. Griesel EQUAL Project (EQuipment for Universal Access to Learning), U of Minnesota Internet: griesel@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu; Voice: 612/625-9081; TDD: 612/626-1346 U S Mail: 4-192 EE/CSci Building; 200 Union Street SE; Minneapolis, MN 55455
steve@arc.UUCP (Steve Savitzky) (10/26/89)
All the calendar programs I write make the starting day of the week optional, but the default is Monday. I find this convenient because it puts the entire weekend together (at the end of the line!); this means that activities that take up an entire weekend don't get split up. -- Steve Savitzky | steve@arc.uucp | apple.com!arc!steve ADVANsoft Research Corp. | (408) 727-3357(w) / 294-6492(h) 4301 Great America Parkway | #include<disclaimer.h> Santa Clara, CA 95054 | May the Source be with you!
torkil@psivax.UUCP (Torkil Hammer) (10/27/89)
European countries have a standard which make the week begin with Monday. Years ago the standard was to begin on Sunday. There was a designated week with 2 Sundays when the change took place - which was in the 1970's around a New Year if memory serves me right. They still don't agree on week numbering, though.