[comp.sys.ibm.pc] Overide of write protect on floppies

lee@minnow.sp.unisys.com (Gene Lee) (10/18/89)

Does anyone have some software that I can run which would reconfigure
the floppy drive in my pc AT compatible to ignore write protect tabs.

The bottom line is that I want to copy programs to floppies for 
distribution and have a bunch of floppies laying around that don't
have slots cut in them.  

Please mail you responses, thank you.

			Gene W. Lee

lee@minnow.sp.unisys.com (Gene Lee) (10/18/89)

Does anyone have some software that I can run which would reconfigure
the floppy drive in my pc AT compatible to ignore write protect tabs.

The bottom line is that I want to copy programs to floppies for 
distribution and have a bunch of floppies laying around that don't
have slots cut in them.  

Please mail you responses, thank you.

			Gene W. Lee



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unkydave@shumv1.uucp (David Bank) (10/19/89)

In article <1454@minnow.sp.unisys.com> lee@minnow.sp.unisys.com (Gene Lee) writes:
>
>
>Does anyone have some software that I can run which would reconfigure
>the floppy drive in my pc AT compatible to ignore write protect tabs.
>
>The bottom line is that I want to copy programs to floppies for 
>distribution and have a bunch of floppies laying around that don't
>have slots cut in them.  
>
>Please mail you responses, thank you.
>
>			Gene W. Lee

   I know you asked for an E-Mail response, but just to clear the air on
this net group, I'm also Posting one.

   You simply cannot do what you want. The write-protect tab is a
HARDWARE inhibition. It is not software (OS) or firmware (BIOS)
based.

   The write-protect tab interrupts a circuit. Without that circuit,
the write-voltage never reaches the floppy's read-write head and
consequently no writing is possible.

   If write-protects were able to be overridden by software, that'd
make them pretty useless against viruses and Trojan horses, now
wouldn't it???

   In order to do what you want, you'll have to PHYSICALLY
modify your floppy drive. Either that or get a disk duplicator
that doesn't have such a feature.

Unkydave
unkydave@shumv1.ncsu.edu
bank@cslimg.ncsu.edu

c9h@psuecl.bitnet (10/31/89)

In article <1455@minnow.sp.unisys.com>, lee@minnow.sp.unisys.com (Gene Lee) writes:
> Does anyone have some software that I can run which would reconfigure
> the floppy drive in my pc AT compatible to ignore write protect tabs.
>
> The bottom line is that I want to copy programs to floppies for
> distribution and have a bunch of floppies laying around that don't
> have slots cut in them.
>
> Please mail you responses, thank you.

My God!  Do you know what the existence of such a program would mean?  There
would be *NO* way to protect your disks from viruses!  Impossible!  Any
"smart" virus would be able to simply bypass the write-protect facility of
your disk drive.  This is dangerous, and I am glad that it is *NOT* available!

BTW:  I do not know of any disk drive that will physically permit you to
write to a write-protected disk.  In fact, many of them have physical locking
mechanisms to prevent this.

schriste@uceng.UC.EDU (Steven V. Christensen) (11/01/89)

c9h@psuecl.bitnet writes:

>In article <1455@minnow.sp.unisys.com>, lee@minnow.sp.unisys.com (Gene Lee) writes:
>> Does anyone have some software that I can run which would reconfigure
>> the floppy drive in my pc AT compatible to ignore write protect tabs.
>>

>... I do not know of any disk drive that will physically permit you to
>write to a write-protected disk.  In fact, many of them have physical locking
>mechanisms to prevent this.

The write-protect is just a mechanical or optical sensor for the slot
in the side of the disk. If you get in there, it shouldn't be too hard to
bypass it.

I had an Apple ][ drive in which I added a switch on the back, and a yellow
led on the front, to tell me when I had the switch set in the write-always
mode.

-- 
Steven V. Christensen
U.C. College of Eng.
schriste@uceng.uc.edu

tcm@srhqla.SR.COM (Tim Meighan) (11/01/89)

In article <62764@psuecl.bitnet> c9h@psuecl.bitnet writes:
> Does anyone have some software that I can run which would reconfigure
> the floppy drive in my pc AT compatible to ignore write protect tabs.

You can't disable the write-protect hardware of the floppy disk controller
with software.  (It's a good thing, too!)

This is accomplished by modifying a floppy DRIVE to pretend that
the write-protect tab is not present; this is how 5 1/4" distribution
floppies that have no cut-out in the sleeve are written to.  Note that
such a modified drive is extremely dangerous in a home computing
environment and may one day cause you much grief.  Be sure you know
what you are doing.
 
Tim Meighan
SilentRadio

"Get me Premier Kisoff on the hotline!"

wb8foz@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (David Lesher) (11/01/89)

# > Does anyone have some software that I can run which would reconfigure
# > the floppy drive in my pc AT compatible to ignore write protect tabs.
# >

This is very easy to accomplish. Just open up the floppy,
and arrange a small toggle switch to override the detector. I
use a double throw switch. Center (off) follows the tab. Up
write protects all disks. Down (momentary) OVERRIDES an existing
tab.

Of course to scope out how to install one takes some minor
knowledge of a black art that uses the devil's own tools such as
a scope, soldering iron, pull-up resister and screwdriver. If
you one of those folks that thinks all tools come with binders
of documentation, stick to church...

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davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) (11/02/89)

In article <62764@psuecl.bitnet>, c9h@psuecl.bitnet writes:

|  BTW:  I do not know of any disk drive that will physically permit you to
|  write to a write-protected disk.  In fact, many of them have physical locking
|  mechanisms to prevent this.

  Back in the days of 8" floppies I hacked a drive with a 3 position
switch such that in one position the write circuit was disabled by
forcing the write protect "ON", in the 2nd position the write protect
line followed the sensor (normal operation) and in the last position the
write protect was strapped "OFF" so I could write the disk with a tab in
it. I had appropriate red, yellow, and green indicators, too.

  Another note, back when disk vendors put in metal write protect tabs,
some drives detected the write protect by *reflecting* light off the
surface, rather than passing light through the notch. This didn't cause
a security problem because on 8" disks, like mag tape, the tab is an
*enable*, and the default is write protect. This meant that using black
tabs wouldn't let you write the disk. On 5-1/4" the sense of the notch
was switched to default write enable.
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