gjh@galen.acc.virginia.edu (Galen Hekhuis) (11/02/89)
Has anyone successfully run an RLL (specifically a Seagate 238) with an MFM format? Is this the something I should have learned in kindergarten? I already know it is fairly dumb, and probably not a Recommended Idea, but is it possible? -- Galen Hekhuis UVa Health Sciences Center Box 449, Jordan Hall Charlottesville, VA 22908 (804)982-1646 gjh@virginia.edu A stitch in time is a penny earned.
jca@pnet01.cts.com (John C. Archambeau) (11/03/89)
gjh@galen.acc.virginia.edu (Galen Hekhuis) writes: >Has anyone successfully run an RLL (specifically a Seagate 238) with an >MFM format? Is this the something I should have learned in kindergarten? >I already know it is fairly dumb, and probably not a Recommended Idea, but >is it possible? Not only is it dumb, but it will invalidate the ST238's warranty. With respect to Seagate drives, you had better format it with the data encoding method that it was designed for or you will run into problems. In principle, any RLL drive should be able to handle MFM since it is less taxing on the media and the circuitry, but in Seagate's case they design the drive so there is a chance that if you format it the wrong way it might ruin or damage the drive. If you MFM format that ST238, it won't quite be the same when you go and RLL format it as it should be. /*--------------------------------------------------------------------------* * Flames: /dev/null (on my Minix partition) *--------------------------------------------------------------------------* * ARPA : crash!pnet01!jca@nosc.mil * INET : jca@pnet01.cts.com * UUCP : {nosc ucsd hplabs!hd-sdd}!crash!pnet01!jca *--------------------------------------------------------------------------* * Note : My opinions are that...mine. My boss doesn't pay me enough to * speak in the best interests of the company (yet). *--------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
liberato@drivax.UUCP (Jimmy Liberato) (11/03/89)
gjh@galen.acc.virginia.edu (Galen Hekhuis) writes: >Has anyone successfully run an RLL (specifically a Seagate 238) with an >MFM format? Is this the something I should have learned in kindergarten? Uh oh, now you're really in for it!. :-) :-) I'm sure someone will be happy to *EMAIL* all the relevant information to you since you must be a new account and probably missed the EXTENSIVE coverage of this topic this month. To those others who only post to a newsgroup when some question pops up but never read it in the interim: Be aware that is considered an extreme insult to those who labor long just to keep up with the news let alone those who share so freely of the wealth of knowledge that exists in the collective genius that is this forum. -- Jimmy Liberato ...!amdahl!drivax!liberato "...I turn to my computer | I press Execute... And spend my evenings with it | `Hello, I know that you've been feeling tired, Like a friend. | I bring you love and deeper understanding. I was loading a new program | Hello, I know that you're unhappy, I had ordered from a magazine. | I bring you love and deeper understanding.'" KATE BUSH, from the album _The_Sensual_World_
liberato@drivax.UUCP (Jimmy Liberato) (11/04/89)
liberato@drivax.UUCP (Jimmy Liberato) writes: >gjh@galen.acc.virginia.edu (Galen Hekhuis) writes: >>Has anyone successfully run an RLL (specifically a Seagate 238) with an >>MFM format? Is this the something I should have learned in kindergarten? >Uh oh, now you're really in for it!. :-) :-) >I'm sure someone will be happy to *EMAIL* all the relevant information to >you since you must be a new account and probably missed the EXTENSIVE coverage >of this topic this month. Uh oh, now *I'm* really in for it! How I didn't recognize Galen's name can only be stocked up to the odd hour. Actually, he was asking about something quite different which a CAREFUL reading would have revealed. There was no personal slight intended but he is certainly due a public apology from me for the implications of my post. Done! -- Jimmy Liberato ...!amdahl!drivax!liberato
gjh@galen.acc.virginia.edu (Galen Hekhuis) (11/05/89)
In article <2551C87A.53A7@drivax.UUCP> liberato@drivax.UUCP (Jimmy Liberato) writes: }liberato@drivax.UUCP (Jimmy Liberato) writes: } }>gjh@galen.acc.virginia.edu (Galen Hekhuis) writes: } }>>Has anyone successfully run an RLL (specifically a Seagate 238) with an }>>MFM format? Is this the something I should have learned in kindergarten? } }>Uh oh, now you're really in for it!. :-) :-) } }>I'm sure someone will be happy to *EMAIL* all the relevant information to }>you since you must be a new account and probably missed the EXTENSIVE coverage }>of this topic this month. } }Uh oh, now *I'm* really in for it! How I didn't recognize Galen's name can }only be stocked up to the odd hour. Actually, he was asking about something }quite different which a CAREFUL reading would have revealed. There was no }personal slight intended but he is certainly due a public apology from me for }the implications of my post. Done! } }-- }Jimmy Liberato ...!amdahl!drivax!liberato Hey, thanks -- and no offense taken. Also thanks for the note saying you had in fact actually done just this, and it neither caused the hurricane in SC or the earthquake in CA, although manufacturers routinely predict such results (although the examples are a bit on the extreme side). Thanks for the folks that responded that they had tried such a thing, and that there is seemingly no physical prohibition -- purchasing from large instutitions being what it is I guess I'll get to try this very exeriment later in the week, now with a bit less hesitation. As for the suprising amount of people who sent me reams of material (and other things) concerning MFM drives on RLL controllers, that wasn't exactly what I was after and words cannot adequately express my thoughts, which is just as well I guess, because I have been told (I think by my mommy) that if you can't say anything nice about people, don't say anything at all. -- Galen Hekhuis UVa Health Sciences Center Box 449, Jordan Hall Charlottesville, VA 22908 (804)982-1646 gjh@virginia.edu A stitch in time is a penny earned.