[comp.sys.ibm.pc] KERMIT problem response summary

terry@joshua.math.ucla.edu (11/07/89)

Light at the end of the tunnel for those of us who live in a 
KERMIT-only world: ...

A few weeks ago I posted a plea for help with a KERMIT script 
problem.  I was trying to cycle a remote port up to the 
proper connect speed by sending breaks.  I was trying to 
send \Kbreaks, which was wrong because \Kbreak is a KERMIT
verb, not a character.  \B was the proper output character,
as pointed out by Eric Boehm in Albany.  Thanks, Eric!

Here is a summary of responses.  Thanks to all who wrote in.

Terry McKiernan
terry@math.ucla.edu

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From emb978@leah.Albany.EDU Wed Nov  1 11:23:40 1989

Here's a script fragment that I use to cycle a data switch:

:LOOP
PAUSE 1
INPUT 1 login:
IF FAILURE OUTPUT \B
REINPUT login:
IF FAILURE GOTO LOOP

--
Eric M. Boehm
EMB978@leah.Albany.EDU
EMB978@ALBNYVMS.BITNET

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From dg%lakart.UUCP@XAIT.Xerox.COM Thu Nov  2 09:22:05 1989

One suggestion to try (yes, it's a hack, but hey... if it works)

If you can, do the following:

change the baud rate to the lowest available (75 is preferable, but 300
might just cut it), and send a NUL ('\0') character. That may look like
a break to the getty on the SUN - it works for our Integrated Solutions
BSD4.3 system. Of course, it goes without saying that you change it back
after sending it. :-)

			Yours,
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From thomas@mvac23.uucp Thu Nov  2 14:50:54 1989

Have you tried sending this problem to the Kermit Distribution
folks at Columbia University?  They may have an answer for you
or may send the question on to the author of C/kermit who might
have an answer.

Let me know if you don't have an address.  I can come up with
the address of the kermit-digest which answers questions just
like yours.

                         - tom
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From mcohen@BRL.MIL Mon Nov  6 10:55:52 1989

Thank you for the information.  We have a similar configuration
to yours - but ours has a Gandalf PACX (a digital switch) between
the modem and host mini.  We can't use 2400 bps speed even though
everything is capable of it.  The powers don't choose to set up
the configuration files for it yet.

You can program a break for any length of time (at lease in kermit).
Some terminal emulators have two breaks (like the vt100): short and
long.  Short is .232 sec and long is 3.5 sec according to the manual
for our vt100 lookalike terminal.  Break is defined as "the space state"
as in mark/space to define the bits in a character.  I think the rest
state for the line is mark.  You can get a very short break for some
purposes by typing a null character (eg ^@).

Well that's the end of my expertise.  Good luck.
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