[comp.sys.ibm.pc] math software

agc@briar.philips.com (Aldo G. Cugnini;6080;2.08d;$0205) (11/07/89)

Has anyone used software similar to MathCad on other than a PC?
(MathCad is a PC package which, for example, performs calculations,
does array math such as FFT's, and has graphics (2- and 3-D) capabilities.)
I have used it in the past on a PC, but don't have access to one now.
I understand ILB is available on workstations, but I don't need anything
that powerful, and am already comfortable with MathCad.  I'd like to have
these capabilities on VMS or UNIX.  Any suggestions?

hallett@positron.uucp (Jeff Hallett x5163 ) (11/07/89)

In article <67496@philabs.Philips.Com> agc@briar.philips.com (Aldo G. Cugnini;6080;2.08d;$0205) writes:
>Has anyone used software similar to MathCad on other than a PC?
>(MathCad is a PC package which, for example, performs calculations,
>does array math such as FFT's, and has graphics (2- and 3-D) capabilities.)
>I have used it in the past on a PC, but don't have access to one now.
>I understand ILB is available on workstations, but I don't need anything
>that powerful, and am already comfortable with MathCad.  I'd like to have
>these capabilities on VMS or UNIX.  Any suggestions?

Yeah, try Mathematica. It is the  Cadillac of math-processing programs
today.   Full symbolic manipulation,    numeric, plotting, the  works.
Supports a nice notebook for organizing your stuff.

Currently it runs on Sun  and Mac and  a coupla  others.   Retails for
$795. 


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is813cs@pyr.gatech.EDU (Cris Simpson) (11/08/89)

In article <1369@mrsvr.UUCP> hallett@gemed.ge.com (Jeffrey A. Hallett (414) 548-5163) writes:
>In article <67496@philabs.Philips.Com> agc@briar.philips.com (Aldo G. Cugnini;6080;2.08d;$0205) writes:
>>Has anyone used software similar to MathCad on other than a PC?
>
>Yeah, try Mathematica. It is the  Cadillac of math-processing programs
>today.   Full symbolic manipulation,    numeric, plotting, the  works.
>Supports a nice notebook for organizing your stuff.


	Mathsoft now produces a package called MathStation, which is
essentially MathCad on a Sun  or VAX with lots of added power.  It includes
a FORTRAN code generator which lets you compile worksheets.

       Brochures make it look very slick.  That's all I now.

MathSoft  :  1-800-628-4223   (Ext 700) 
 in Mass  :    617-577-1017

      Disc:  Just user, no connection, etc, etc....
 
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stiber@cs.ucla.edu (Michael D Stiber) (11/10/89)

on 7 Nov 89 08:23:11 GMT,
hallett@positron.uucp (Jeff Hallett x5163	) said:
>> In article <67496@philabs.Philips.Com> agc@briar.philips.com (Aldo G. Cugnini;6080;2.08d;$0205) writes:
>Has anyone used software similar to MathCad on other than a PC?
>(MathCad is a PC package which, for example, performs calculations,
>does array math such as FFT's, and has graphics (2- and 3-D) capabilities.)
>I have used it in the past on a PC, but don't have access to one now.
>I understand ILB is available on workstations, but I don't need anything
>that powerful, and am already comfortable with MathCad.  I'd like to have
>these capabilities on VMS or UNIX.  Any suggestions?

>> Yeah, try Mathematica. It is the  Cadillac of math-processing programs
>> today.   Full symbolic manipulation,    numeric, plotting, the  works.
>> Supports a nice notebook for organizing your stuff.

I'm sorry, but Mathematica sucks.  We have it on a 5 Meg Mac II, and
it crashes frequently.  It often refuses to perform various
operations, producing indecipherable error messages.

A far superior package is Maple, from the University of Waterloo.  It
has more built-in operations than Mathematica.  We have never had any
problems with it.  It is also programmable, with a Pascal-like syntax
(another thing you can't do with Mathematica).  Runs on UNIX, I don't
know about VMS.  There is also supposed to be a Mac version.
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ho@fergvax.unl.edu (Tiny Bubbles...) (11/14/89)

From article <STIBER.89Nov9163947@maui.cs.ucla.edu>, by stiber@cs.ucla.edu (Michael D Stiber):
> 
> on 7 Nov 89 08:23:11 GMT,
> hallett@positron.uucp (Jeff Hallett x5163	) said:
>[Maple... MathCad... Mathematica]

While you all are talking about math:

Could anyone recommend a package that will do non-linear regression?  I'm
looking for a curve-fitting program, but so far am coming up only with line-
fitting programs.

Are there any ftp'able, or do they all cost gobs of money?  If so, which is
a reasonable price (I is a college student, you know)?  :-)

Please respond via e-mail.  I only read the net once a week, and you know
what that means... lost articles!
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sasingh@dahlia.waterloo.edu (Sanjay Singh) (11/17/89)

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In article <1369@mrsvr.UUCP> hallett@gemed.ge.com (Jeffrey A. Hallett (414) 548-5163) writes:
>Aldo G. Cugnini writes:
>>Has anyone used software similar to MathCad on other than a PC?
>>(MathCad is a PC package which, for example, performs calculations,
>>does array math such as FFT's, and has graphics (2- and 3-D) capabilities.)
>>I have used it in the past on a PC, but don't have access to one now.
>>I understand ILB is available on workstations, but I don't need anything
>>that powerful, and am already comfortable with MathCad.  I'd like to have
>>these capabilities on VMS or UNIX.  Any suggestions?

Jeffrey A. Hallet writes:
>Yeah, try Mathematica. It is the  Cadillac of math-processing programs
>today.   Full symbolic manipulation,    numeric, plotting, the  works.
>Supports a nice notebook for organizing your stuff.
>
>Currently it runs on Sun  and Mac and  a coupla  others.   Retails for
>$795. 
>
You may want to look into into Maple. I like it, but I might be a little
biased since the Symbolic Computation Group in the CS department developed
it here. If you are willing to skimp a bit on the graphics, you can get
a very fast, powerful, and reliable package for a low price, for a large
number of machines. To illustrate: Mathematica for Cray: $160000-$240000;
Maple for Cray: $1500.

6500gsv@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (George S. Vaughan) (11/18/89)

If you are more into, on the other hand good plotting and a symbolic
manipulator with source that you can build into your code, you might
want to look at Mathlib from (oh, ask somebody with a first name account
on hmcvax.claremont.edu.)  They may be going by the name INNOSOFT now.

					George S. Vaughan

cheung@pyr.gatech.EDU (S. Y. Cheung) (11/18/89)

In article <18254@watdragon.waterloo.edu> sasingh@dahlia.waterloo.edu (Sanjay Singh) writes:
>
>You may want to look into into Maple. I like it, but I might be a little
>biased since the Symbolic Computation Group in the CS department developed
>it here. If you are willing to skimp a bit on the graphics, you can get
>a very fast, powerful, and reliable package for a low price, for a large
>number of machines. To illustrate: Mathematica for Cray: $160000-$240000;
>Maple for Cray: $1500.

Two major systems on symbolic math are: MacSymma and Maple.
There is an article about MacSymma in IEEE Transactions of Knowledge and
Data Engineering, Vol. 1, No. 1, 1989. MacSymma is a huge symbolic
manipulation system. From what I have seen on the net, Maple and MacSymma
can crunch quite a variety of math problems. Also, my feeling is
that the people of Maple (U. of Waterloo) are still extending the system.

As for Mathematica, it does not compare with the two systems above.
But the frontend (especially on the Mac) is impressive (I am
impressed by the 3-D plots).
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