[comp.sys.ibm.pc] using Procomm's Kermit file xfer

scottb@ogccse.ogc.edu (Scott Baker) (11/27/89)

I use kermit to login to a Vax running UNIX.  I have not been able
to get the Kermit protocol to work to transfer files.  I suspect that
I don't have the Kermit parameters in the Alt-S menu set correctly.

I have been able to use xmodem, but kermit would be preferred since
it allow wildcard selection of filenames.

		Thanks in Advance:

		Scott Baker
                Internet: scottb@cse.ogi.edu
		UUCP:     ogicse!scottb

leonard@bucket.UUCP (Leonard Erickson) (11/28/89)

scottb@ogccse.ogc.edu (Scott Baker) writes:

>I use kermit to login to a Vax running UNIX.  I have not been able
>to get the Kermit protocol to work to transfer files.  I suspect that
>I don't have the Kermit parameters in the Alt-S menu set correctly.

Procomm's implementation of Kermit will *only* work if you are running
8-N-1. You'll have to start the send or receive on the Vax, and then use
Alt-P to switch to 8-n-1 and *then* start the upload or download. After
the xfer, use Alt-p to switch bach to your old parameters.
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gcook@cps3xx.UUCP (Greg Cook) (11/30/89)

From article <1778@bucket.UUCP>, by leonard@bucket.UUCP (Leonard Erickson):
> scottb@ogccse.ogc.edu (Scott Baker) writes:
> Procomm's implementation of Kermit will *only* work if you are running
> 8-N-1. You'll have to start the send or receive on the Vax, and then use
> Alt-P to switch to 8-n-1 and *then* start the upload or download. After
> the xfer, use Alt-p to switch bach to your old parameters.

Not True!

I use procomm's kermit transfers with "E71" routinely and have had
no problems.  Actually, it would not work with "N71" but changing
parity to "E" solved the problem for me.

Maybe the "8th bit quote char" parameter in procomm has something to
do with this.  But I don't really know.  All that matters to me is
that what I am doing works.


Is anyone familiar enough with procomm/kermit to enlighten us as to
why there are different successes with different parities/bits etc?

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barkdoll@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Edwin Barkdoll) (11/30/89)

In article <1778@bucket.UUCP> leonard@bucket.UUCP (Leonard Erickson) writes:
>[...]
>Procomm's implementation of Kermit will *only* work if you are running
>8-N-1. You'll have to start the send or receive on the Vax, and then use
>Alt-P to switch to 8-n-1 and *then* start the upload or download. After
>the xfer, use Alt-p to switch bach to your old parameters.
>[...] 
>Leonard Erickson		...!tektronix!reed!percival!bucket!leonard

	Fooey.  I use Procomm with E-7-1 all the time to send/receive
files between an AT compatible and a VAX.  (I am not connected to the
VAX via Kermit in this case as was the original poster).

	However when I use Kermit to _connect_ to a host computer such as
when I send files between an AT and a DEC PDP 11/23 (the AT's running ProComm 
in host mode) then only setting that I've that found to work is N-8-1.

	I don't know why there is the difference in what ProComm
tolerates (i assume the problem is with ProComm) between CONNECT mode
and a simple SEND/RECEIVE.  I never did manage to send/receive files
between the PDP11/23 and the AT except when using the HOST mode in ProComm.


Edwin Barkdoll
barkdoll@cattell.psych.upenn.edu

dts@pwllheli.sw.stratus.com (Dan Senie) (12/02/89)

The VAX Kermit is not very smart about parity. It comes up expecting the
line to be NO parity even though
VMS was working with EVEN parity. Since you need to be in EVEN parity in
Procomm in order to log in to
the VAX, you should do a "SET PARITY EVEN" on the VMS Kermit end. You
can add this command to your kermit
initialization file.

wek@point.UUCP (Bill Kuykendall) (12/11/89)

>Procomm's implementation of Kermit will *only* work if you are running
>8-N-1. You'll have to start the send or receive on the Vax, and then use
>Alt-P to switch to 8-n-1 and *then* start the upload or download. After
>the xfer, use Alt-p to switch bach to your old parameters.

That's odd.  We use Procomm's kermit protocol exclusively for all stations
accessing our vaxen via Telenet -- because it's the *only* transfer protocol
in Procomm that *will* work at E,7,1.  

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Bill K