wm@tekchips.UUCP (Wm Leler) (04/12/84)
More rock/popular groups/people who play music in other than 4/4 time: King Crimson Gentle Giant Mike Oldfield Cat Stevens Can Tangerine Dream Zivo (ooops, that's Bulgarian music) That's just off the top of my head. Any others? Wm Leler 503/627-5151 wm.Tektronix@Rand-relay {ucbvax|allegra|decvax}!tektronix!tekchips!wm
kissell@flairvax.UUCP (Kevin Kissell) (04/16/84)
(Is this thing on?)
As a big fan of polyrhythms and odd metrics, I've always been quite fond
of Peter Hammill (Van Der Graaf). Writes marvelous dovetailing lyrics.
The stuff from the 70's is his best. "Pawn Hearts", "Godbluff", and
"The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome".
Kevin D. Kissell
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rcd@opus.UUCP (Dick Dunn) (04/16/84)
{[<(!)>]} Speaking of strange signatures, doesn't anyone remember the Grateful Dead piece "The Eleven"? (11/8 time) -- ...Are you making this up as you go along? Dick Dunn {hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!rcd (303) 444-5710 x3086
knight@rlgvax.UUCP (Steve Knight) (04/17/84)
> More rock/popular groups/people who play music in other > than 4/4 time: [...] Any others? Let's not forget Pete Townshend. 6/8 crops up in several of his songs, and "All the Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes" has a cut in 5/4. Probably some others that aren't springing readily to mind. -- "If you lived here, you'd be home by now." Steve Knight {seismo,allegra,some other sites}!rlgvax!knight
henthorn@uiucdcs.UUCP (04/17/84)
#R:tekchips:-69400:uiucdcs:10800039:000:89 uiucdcs!henthorn Apr 16 18:30:00 1984 GENESIS YES UK (Bruford,Wetton,Holdsworth,and one other guy) Just to mention a few more.
thielges@uiuccsb.UUCP (04/17/84)
#R:tekchips:-69400:uiuccsb:10200024:000:138 uiuccsb!thielges Apr 16 20:33:00 1984 There's also : old Kansas Genesis (remember apocalypse in 9/8) Yello (Very obscure Ralph band) Yellow Magic Orchestra (from Japan)
rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (04/17/84)
One of the neatest thing about Close to the Edge (speaking of time signatures) is the way that, on Total Mass Retain (second section---how many Yes slugs out there can actually name all four movements without looking), Anderson sings, Bruford drums (percusses?), and Howe strums in 6/8 time, while Squire and Wakeman play together in 4/4 (8/8?) time (remember those sudden out of nowhere bass guitar and mellotron "booms" that pop in at seemingly inappropriate times?). Yes had tried similar "counterrhythmic" (not really polyrhythmic) tricks on "Perpetual Change" and "Heart of the Sunrise", but it didn't work quite as well as on Close to the Edge. Yes was often into using such things as ways of showing off ("See, we're progressive!!"), but somehow they overcame that tendency on Edge. It was one of the hallmarks of their sound that they never recovered in future work; any attempts at this on Topographic were muddled by the poor production and the incredible lameness of Alan White (his inability to do any more than [barely] keep time on this album might have been the fatal blow; though I don't know if Bruford's eclectic style would have helped matters---the album was far enough off in space as it was, and White *was* hired to 'keep one foot on earth'). Enough ancient history... Crimson's Discipline is full of examples of Fripp and Belew playing in 4/4 and 7/8 at the same time, and Peter Gabriel's "San Jacinto" is in 4/4 with a 7/8 sequencer riff in the background. ("Solsbury Hill" is in pure 7/8.) Polyrock (produced by Philip Glass) has a number of multirhythmic tricks on their first album. Funny time signatures are often used as a way to impress impressionable young aspiring musician types ("Wow, man, it's like jazz, far out!!") (like me). The bottom line is always "How does it sound?" and not "What fancy technique did they use?" -- "You are not morg. You are not I-morg!!!" Rich Rosen pyuxn!rlr
henthorn@uiucdcs.UUCP (04/19/84)
#R:tekchips:-69400:uiucdcs:10800040:000:79 uiucdcs!henthorn Apr 19 09:09:00 1984 I think 6/8 is rather common also. It's the triple meter "stock part" of rock.
henthorn@uiucdcs.UUCP (04/19/84)
#R:tekchips:-69400:uiucdcs:10800041:000:129 uiucdcs!henthorn Apr 19 09:11:00 1984 The other UK member who appeared on both albums is Eddie Jobson. He went on to play for Jethro Tull a few years back and now...?
tynor@uiucuxc.UUCP (04/20/84)
#R:tekchips:-69400:uiucuxc:30800016:000:340 uiucuxc!tynor Apr 20 14:28:00 1984 Take a listen to Eddie Jobson's latest (1983) album, The Green Album. I was quite impressed. There is some very tasteful synthesizer work, along with a nice semi-classical piano solo (leading into a violin solo... Steve Tynor ihnp4!uiucdcs!uiucuxc!tynor University of Illinois Champaign-Urbana
andrew@inmet.UUCP (04/22/84)
#R:tekchips:-69400:inmet:6600127:000:592 inmet!andrew Apr 21 14:26:00 1984 More songs in unusual time signatures: Jethro Tull's "Living In the Past" (5/4) The Pretenders' "Tattooed Love Boys" (15/8) Pink Floyd's "Money" (7/4) Allman Brothers' "Whipping Post" (intro in 11/8) Allman Brothers' "Black Hearted Woman" (intro in 7/4) Todd Rundgren's "Cool Jerk" (7/4) Someone pointed out polyrhythms in Yes' music - listen to Steve Howe's guitar on "Long Distance Runaround", where he accents every fifth beat of a 4/4 song: ONE two three four one TWO three four one two THREE four... Andrew W. Rogers, Intermetrics ...{harpo|ihnp4|ima|esquire}!inmet!andrew
rehmi@umcp-cs.UUCP (04/23/84)
Eddie Jobson put out "The Green Album" last year... Does he have anything else in the works? I really liked it - what do y'all think of it? -rehmi -- Uucp: ..!seismo!umcp-cs!rehmi By the fork, spoon, and exec CsNet: rehmi.umcp-cs@csnet-relay of Khron, Kernel ContreMain, ArpaNet: rehmi@maryland Earl of Tetravale & Tumbolia.
emjej@uokvax.UUCP (04/29/84)
#R:tekchips:-69400:uokvax:4000025:000:155 uokvax!emjej Apr 28 08:45:00 1984 Anyone out there remember a popular song of the mid-to-late 60's called "Cool Jerk"? I think it was in 7/4 time...Verification invited. James Jones
jmiller@ctvax.UUCP (05/08/84)
#R:tekchips:-69400:ctvax:39000014:000:168 ctvax!jmiller May 8 14:46:00 1984 The original "Cool Jerk" was in good ol' 4/4, but Todd Rundgren did a rather twisted 7/4 version of it on "A Wizard, A True Star". Jim Miller Computer Thought, Dallas