tkoppel@isis.UUCP (Ted Koppel) (01/10/90)
I used 4DOS for awhile, then stopped using it. Reason: I run DOG (the Disk OrGanizer - that defragments hard disks which has been another recent thread here.). Issue was that DOG is guided by the FAT to do its work, and 4DOS seemingly reads the directory once. When DOG is finished, DIR lists a really screwy directory, with file sizes in the 15 billion byte range, and so on. Since keeping my disk clean and organized is of more importance to me than the 4DOS shell, I tossed out 4DOS. -- Ted Koppel CARL - Colorado Alliance of Research Libraries = BITNET: TKOPPEL@DUCAIR UUCP: uunet!isis!tkoppel or tkoppel@du.edu
cooper@plains.UUCP (Jeff Cooper) (01/10/90)
If you still want to use DOG (even though I wouldn't, it trashed my hard disk once and that was enough) just run it before you shut your system down for the day. I'd never give up 4DOS just to use a disk organizer (which I'd only use once a week at the most) but then everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion however miguided it is... :-) Jeff Cooper
granoff@vaxwrk.enet.dec.com (Mark H. Granoff) (01/10/90)
Along the same lines (using 4DOS and using *any* disk defragmenter),
what about Norton's Speed Disk (which I use on a fairly regular basis).
Does 4DOS's caching get in the way with Speed Disk, too?
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I haven't used DOG since early 1987, but certainly never had any bad experiences with it - I found it (STILL find it) the most versatile of all the optimizers available, and also (sigh) the slowest. The version I once used permitted very specific placement of each and every file on the system, and operated reliably time after time. As the operator of several bulletin board systems, I optimize daily - sometimes several times - there is no other way to maintain speed and efficiency. Until recently, I used Golden Bow's VOPT, simply because it was by far the fastest of all the available packages...depending upon the mail flow on any given day, for instance, Vopt would require about 5-6 minutes to optimize 169 megs of data (386/16, Miniscribe 6128 and 3425 running with a Perstor 180 controller). I still include a copy of the Vopt package with every system I install. Recently, however, I switched my dos system to SCSI, and Vopt wouldn't recognize the drive, so I switched to Norton's SD, which, although grossly slow, does get the job done, and runs (like Vopt) within a batch file. I guess the point of all this is that even though you may not see the need for optimizing your system, many of us recognize that it's a neccesity if we wish to maintain speed and efficiency, and, on some systems, mandatory. -- 1B Systems Management Ltd. | 4B - 2520 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C. V9T 3L3 Kenneth McVay | Voice: 604-758-7414 | Envoy: ken.mcvay | RCSA: 89:681/1
aru@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Sriram Ramkrishna) (01/11/90)
In article <7356@shlump.nac.dec.com> granoff@vaxwrk.enet.dec.com (Mark H. Granoff) writes: >Does 4DOS's caching get in the way with Speed Disk, too? Actually no. I have used it with 4dos and I have not had any problems with it. Sri