[comp.sys.ibm.pc] Everex RAM-3000

ron@woan.austin.ibm.com (Ronald S. Woan) (01/05/90)

In article <88@slvblc.UUCP>, dick@slvblc.UUCP (Dick Flanagan) writes:
|>I have two of the Everex RAM-3000 boards.  They are EXTended memory boards,
|>*not* EXPanded memory boards.  LIM in any form is not supported on the board.

Maybe we aren't all talking about the same board. I bought a RAM-3000
(PLUS) a few months ago and it has EMS4.0 (Expanded Memory) support
with driver. I have this nasty suspicion that it had hardware for 3.2,
as that was what the manual indicated. ELIM 4.0 was only in the
Addendum that was tacked on. I don't have any applications that make
use of the 4.0 functions, but it run LIM 3.2 stuff fine.

					Ron

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timothym@tekigm2.MEN.TEK.COM (Timothy D Margeson) (01/06/90)

Well,

The previous posters are all correct. The EV-3000At is an extended memory
card. It is an expanded memory card. It is a 640k backfill card. It is all
of these.

The card supports EMS 3.2 in hardware, and Everex now supplies an EMS 4.0
software driver. Hence, with EMS 4.0, the registers necessary to make EMS
applications run fast are missing.

The card can be configured to be extended and expanded concurrently, and
backfill RAM on machines with less than 640k.

The same is true (except backfill) for the EV10000AT card. Using 1mbit
chip makes for a 10 Meg expansion card.

I use the EV-3000AT in extended mode on an old 16MHz modified to 20MHz
pre-step Everex cached machine (6250 dhrystones). Sure the EV card is only
16 bits, but who cares if all the bench marks say extended memory access
is 20% faster than a 20MHz IBM PS/2?

So, now you all know 'just the facts jack'!


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phil@pepsi.amd.com (Phil Ngai) (01/06/90)

In article <88@slvblc.UUCP> dick@slvblc.UUCP (Dick Flanagan) writes:
|I have two of the Everex RAM-3000 boards.  They are EXTended memory boards,
|*not* EXPanded memory boards.  LIM in any form is not supported on the board.

Try reading the manual. They do support LIM-EMS and I'm using it right
now.

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marquis@well.UUCP (Roger Marquis) (01/08/90)

In article <28641@amdcad.AMD.COM> phil@pepsi.AMD.COM (Phil Ngai) writes:
>In article <88@slvblc.UUCP> dick@slvblc.UUCP (Dick Flanagan) writes:
>|I have two of the Everex RAM-3000 boards.  They are EXTended memory boards,
>|*not* EXPanded memory boards.  LIM in any form is not supported on the board.
>
>Try reading the manual. They do support LIM-EMS and I'm using it right
>now.
>
The older RAM-3000 boards only supported the LIM 3.2 standard. Everex
made the 3000 LIM 4.0 compatible a few months ago. If you are having
trouble with programs that use expanded memory check the board and the
software for LIM X.X compatibility.

poffen@molehill (Russ Poffenberger) (01/08/90)

In article <15401@well.UUCP> marquis@well.UUCP (Roger Marquis) writes:
>In article <28641@amdcad.AMD.COM> phil@pepsi.AMD.COM (Phil Ngai) writes:
>>In article <88@slvblc.UUCP> dick@slvblc.UUCP (Dick Flanagan) writes:
>>|I have two of the Everex RAM-3000 boards.  They are EXTended memory boards,
>>|*not* EXPanded memory boards.  LIM in any form is not supported on the board.
>>
>>Try reading the manual. They do support LIM-EMS and I'm using it right
>>now.
>>
>The older RAM-3000 boards only supported the LIM 3.2 standard. Everex
>made the 3000 LIM 4.0 compatible a few months ago. If you are having
>trouble with programs that use expanded memory check the board and the
>software for LIM X.X compatibility.

Everex did nothing to the hardware to support LIM 4.0. They wrote a driver to
emulate LIM 4.0 in software, no more. You can probably get the driver by
contacting Everex.

Note that this is S/W emulation only, it does NOT support H/W specific things
such as DMA and multitasking in expanded memory.


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ppa@hpldola.HP.COM (Paul P. Austgen) (01/13/90)

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