[comp.sys.ibm.pc] Mouse Stick??

rocker@eve.wright.edu (Ronnie Peugh) (01/20/90)

After 5 years with an original IBM PS, I am finally moving up to a 386
with Windows.  I've heard that using windows without a mouse is a pain
in the ___.  But, I am handicapped and do not have pin-point control of
my hands, ie. I won't go near a mouse (one of the reasons I HATE MACs,
but that's another newsgroup  - mine.is.better.than.yours)

Although over 98% of the time I am using my computer for serious work,
however, every once in a while (when my program won't work) I like to
play a game or two.  I refuse to pay $20-$30 for a dumb little joy stick
that I may use once a month.

Several years ago I saw a "mouse stick" in a Computer Shopper.  It had
two cables hooked to it, a 9 pin game plug and a 25 pin serial plug.
I've been watching Computer Shopper for another one, but no go.

Does anyone know if these still exists and where and maybe how whell
they work???

I've never tried a track ball.  How picky (sensitive) are they.  Do they
make them with both plugs?

Any help would be a lot of help.
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dlow@hpspcoi.HP.COM (Danny Low) (01/23/90)

>Several years ago I saw a "mouse stick" in a Computer Shopper.  It had
>two cables hooked to it, a 9 pin game plug and a 25 pin serial plug.
>I've been watching Computer Shopper for another one, but no go.

Joysticks use a 15 pin plug and are totally different from a mouse
as far as the PC is concerned. Your mouse stick looks like a serial trackball
with a stick instead of a ball. It is not a joystick if it has 9
and 25 pin plugs. Also Windows does NOT support any joystick. Any
joystick you buy will be for games only. Any mouse you buy may not be
supported by a game as alternative to a joystick.

>I've never tried a track ball.  How picky (sensitive) are they.  Do they
>make them with both plugs?

A trackball is just a mouse flipped on its back. What you need is a mouse 
or mouse driver that allows for variable resolution. At low resolution, 
small moves in the mouse are ignored. Every serial mouse and trackball 
I have ever seen comes with adaptors that allow them to be used with 
either a 9 pin or 25 pin serial port.

			   Danny Low
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ttak@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Timothy Takahashi) (01/24/90)

In article <1640044@hpspcoi.HP.COM> dlow@hpspcoi.HP.COM (Danny Low) writes:

>and 25 pin plugs. Also Windows does NOT support any joystick. Any
>joystick you buy will be for games only. Any mouse you buy may not be
>supported by a game as alternative to a joystick.
>

Windows 1.0x specifically featured a driver for the "Kraft Joystick Mouse"
I sucessfully ran Windows 1.04 on a Tandy 1000 using the joystick as a
mouse. Having subsequently sold the machine, I recall getting Windows 2.11
to acknowlege the 1.04 joystick driver. 

tim takahashi