[comp.sys.ibm.pc] Talking to myself

ed.leslie@canremote.uucp (ED LESLIE) (02/18/90)

TO: ed.leslie@canremote.uucp

This is a quick test to see if I can talk to myself through the usenet
gateway. I will be curious to see how long it takes to 'arrive'.

Regards....Ed Leslie
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 ~ DeLuxe 1.11a20 #1656  ed.leslie@canremote.uucp

darcy@druid.uucp (D'Arcy J.M. Cain) (02/19/90)

In article <90021721414015@masnet.uucp> ed.leslie@canremote.uucp (ED LESLIE) writes:
>TO: ed.leslie@canremote.uucp
>
>This is a quick test to see if I can talk to myself through the usenet
>gateway. I will be curious to see how long it takes to 'arrive'.
>
>Regards....Ed Leslie
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> ~ DeLuxe 1.11a20 #1656  ed.leslie@canremote.uucp

Are we having fun yet?  Isn't there someone at Canada Remote that can explain
the difference between news and mail?  The entire world really isn't interested
in watching CRSers talk to themselves.  It's bad enough watching them talk to
each other all the time.

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ed.leslie@canremote.uucp (ED LESLIE) (02/20/90)

dp>From: darcy@druid.uucp (D'Arcy J.M. Cain)
dp>Orga: D'Arcy Cain Consulting, West Hill, Ontario
dp>In article <90021721414015@masnet.uucp> ed.leslie@canremote.uucp (ED
dp>LESLIE) writes: >TO: ed.leslie@canremote.uucp
dp>This is a quick test to see if I can talk to myself through the
dp>usenet >gateway. I will be curious to see how long it takes to
dp>'arrive'. >
dp>Regards....Ed Leslie
dp>Are we having fun yet?  Isn't there someone at Canada Remote that can
dp>explain the difference between news and mail?  The entire world
dp>really isn't interested in watching CRSers talk to themselves.  It's
dp>bad enough watching them talk to each other all the time.

Well, (flames off, unlike some of us)...
I guess I should have tried to send it private. Is that possible via
Usenet?

I like to know if my replies are reaching anyone. How to tell?
Send a message to yourself, like you have sent messages to others, and
see if it arrives like you would expect it to. Any other reliable way??
Not that I know of!!

How do YOU check out the time constant of a network? I sent a message to
myself to see how long it takes to arrive.

Fundamentally, I agree with your comments about watching CRSers talking
to each other, let alone themselves, and prefer the more technical
questions, as well as responses -- however, why bother supplying the same
if your messages are not getting through -- which is why I sent the
message in question. As a matter of interest, it has NOT returned to me
-- implying that messages sent to others using the same premise for format
would also be unsuccessful. This was my reason for testing!

I do not relish thinking about, or keying in answers to netters questions
if those answers will just disappear somewhere on the wires.

As you may have noticed, D'Arcey, I have left this message addressed to
ALL, since I am no longer confident, AS THE RESULT OF TESTING, that
sending to USENET GATEWAY with the first line containing:
TO: darcy@druid.uucp
works. I would appreciate if you could enlighten me with the correct
method for posting replies such that they will reach the correct
e-mail destination without wasting network bandwidth for universal
questions/replies

Regards....Ed Leslie
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 ~ DeLuxe 1.11a20 #1656  ed.leslie@canremote.uucp

darcy@druid.uucp (D'Arcy J.M. Cain) (02/21/90)

In article <90022002164279@masnet.uucp> ed.leslie@canremote.uucp (ED LESLIE) writes:
>dp>From: darcy@druid.uucp (D'Arcy J.M. Cain)
>dp>In article <90021721414015@masnet.uucp> ed.leslie@canremote.uucp (ED
>dp>LESLIE) writes: >TO: ed.leslie@canremote.uucp
    [Message from ED to ED]
    [Snarky comments by me]
>
>Well, (flames off, unlike some of us)...
>I guess I should have tried to send it private. Is that possible via
>Usenet?
>
The question is does CRS have email.  USENET is news, not mail.  Ask
someone at CRS.

>I like to know if my replies are reaching anyone. How to tell?
>Send a message to yourself, like you have sent messages to others, and
>see if it arrives like you would expect it to. Any other reliable way??
>Not that I know of!!
>
>How do YOU check out the time constant of a network? I sent a message to
>myself to see how long it takes to arrive.
>
My point was that you didn't send yourself a message.  All you did was post
to the entire world (at the expense of the thousands of sites that carry
news) a message with a TO: line in the text.  There is no way that that
will ever get back to you as mail.

>Fundamentally, I agree with your comments about watching CRSers talking
>to each other, let alone themselves, and prefer the more technical
>questions, as well as responses -- however, why bother supplying the same
>if your messages are not getting through -- which is why I sent the
>message in question. As a matter of interest, it has NOT returned to me
>-- implying that messages sent to others using the same premise for format
>would also be unsuccessful. This was my reason for testing!
>
see above.

>I do not relish thinking about, or keying in answers to netters questions
>if those answers will just disappear somewhere on the wires.
>
>As you may have noticed, D'Arcey, I have left this message addressed to
>ALL, since I am no longer confident, AS THE RESULT OF TESTING, that
>sending to USENET GATEWAY with the first line containing:
>TO: darcy@druid.uucp
>works. I would appreciate if you could enlighten me with the correct
>method for posting replies such that they will reach the correct
>e-mail destination without wasting network bandwidth for universal
>questions/replies
>
The TO: ALL doesn't work any better than TO: darcy@druid. The correct
method to send news is as you did it.  The only problem is that you
thought you were sending mail which as I have explained is incorrect.
Check with someone on your site to find out if email is available.

You suggest that you don't want to waste bandwidth by posting to the
entire net.  If you are furthering a discussion that belongs on a particular
newsgroup then don't hesitate to post.  That is what the net is for.  Find
out how to email from CRS and send me email.  I will email you back the
documents that explain the net and how to use it properly.  Perhaps
you can see that they get passed around CRS.  Remember that although
you pay CRS to log in, none of that gets passed to the net.

Sorry to the rest of the net for continuing the discussion in comp.sys.ibm.pc
but I doubt that CRS gets the news discussion groups.


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D'Arcy J.M. Cain (darcy@druid)     |   Thank goodness we don't get all 
D'Arcy Cain Consulting             |   the government we pay for.
West Hill, Ontario, Canada         |
(416) 281-6094                     |