marshall@alpha.ces.cwru.edu ( ) (02/08/90)
In a previous posting, Dave Neff claimed that one weakness of the DeskJet+ is its inability to print labels. Well, I'd just like to add to that the statement that I have printed several pages of labels quite easily on a HP DeskJet+. It was simple and straight- foreward. The DeskJet+ is a great printer. I'd recommend (sp?) it heartily to anyone. -- Martin Marshall Warning: this computer frequently posts without my information or consent. Anything you are reading here should be construed as opinions only of my computer's CPU chip, and not of any individual, company, or small furry creature from Alpha Centuri.
wg@cbnewsm.ATT.COM (Bill Gieske) (02/08/90)
In article <1990Feb7.174317.17736@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, marshall@alpha.ces.cwru.edu ( ) writes: > > In a previous posting, Dave Neff claimed that one weakness > of the DeskJet+ is its inability to print labels. Well, I'd just > like to add to that the statement that I have printed several pages > of labels quite easily on a HP DeskJet+. It was simple and straight- > foreward. I recall seeing 8 1/2 by 11 page format label sheets in the stationary store a month ago that were specifically designed for laser printer use. I would include the DeskJet in this category. But, given the water soluableness of the ink, I must confess some hesitency in having DeskJet generated mailing addresses. I just mailed over 900 class reunion notices, each addressed by my DeskJet. I had minor naggings as to whether a few might fall victim to address washout. Just hope it wsn't raining hard when the mail man delivered the mail!!
neff@hpvcfs1.HP.COM (Dave Neff) (02/09/90)
Regarding DeskJet+ and labels: I was aware that certain labels do seem to work with the DeskJet+. Its just that we did not design or test the printer for use with labels. This means we did not check for problems like paper jam and paper pick. Hence officially, we don't support the use of labels. Some labels can even "skoot off" the paper while printing, making an awful mess :-). In a similar light, I have printed transparencies on PaintJet transparency film (HP PN 51630Q) and the results are acceptable (but not perfect) in my humble opinion. However, the film is thicker than recommended paper thickness and could have similar problems with jamming and paper picking. Hence officially, we don't support printing on transparencies, even special ones. Of course a lot of stuff will work that is not officially supported. I just have to be very careful with statements I make on the net about the DeskJet printers. Even though I don't work in product support, I am an HP employee who is very familiar with the DeskJet printer, so am viewed as a "representative" of HP when I answer questions about the DeskJet printers. Dave Neff neff@hpvcfs1.HP.COM
rick@NRC.COM (Rick Wagner) (02/14/90)
In article <9124@cbnewsm.ATT.COM> wg@cbnewsm.ATT.COM (Bill Gieske) writes: >In article <1990Feb7.174317.17736@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, marshall@alpha.ces.cwru.edu ( ) writes: >> >> In a previous posting, Dave Neff claimed that one weakness >> of the DeskJet+ is its inability to print labels. Well, I'd just >> like to add to that the statement that I have printed several pages >> of labels quite easily on a HP DeskJet+. It was simple and straight- >> foreward. >I recall seeing 8 1/2 by 11 page format label sheets in the stationary store >a month ago that were specifically designed for LASER printer use. I would ^^^^^ >include the DeskJet in this category. In behavior and quality, yes. But in the method of putting the image on paper, no. The laser printer uses a "hot process". I'm not sure on the exact details, but basically, the LP uses heat to bond the toner to the paper. The DJ use a liquid ink sprayed on to, and absorbed by, the paper. For most paper, there is little difference. However with labels, you need to check them out. Some are labeled (if your lucky) saying "Not for cold process copiers". These labels have a waxy or plastic coating, which prevents the liquid ink from being absorbed by the paper of the label. This is not a problem for the laser printer, because the heat which bonds (is this the "fusing" step?) the toner to the paper, melts the coating enough to let the image bond to it. The first labels I tried in my DJ worked fine. At the time, I was unaware of the hot/cold process labels, so I did not look for anything special; I just got lucky. The second bunch of labels I tried failed miserably. After checking them out, I found that they were "Not for cold process copiers". I don't recall the brands of labels tried, but I think the ones that failed were Avery, and the ones that worked were Dennison. This makes sense, since I seem to recall Dennison copiers as being cold process. NOTE: I am not stating any opinion on the quality of Avery products, just that the ones I used were not appropriate for the apllication I used them in. > >But, given the water soluableness of the ink, I must confess some hesitency >in having DeskJet generated mailing addresses. I just mailed over 900 class >reunion notices, each addressed by my DeskJet. I had minor naggings as to >whether a few might fall victim to address washout. Just hope it wsn't >raining hard when the mail man delivered the mail!! I have heard of people using artists fixative to prevent running of the ink. Anybody have any first hand experience? --rick -- =============================================================================== Rick Wagner Network Research Corp. rick@nrc.com 2380 North Rose Ave. (805) 485-2700 FAX: (805) 485-8204 Oxnard, CA 93030 Don't hate yourself in the morning; sleep til noon.
tmb@moscom.UUCP (Tom Bellucco) (02/23/90)
In article <1990Feb7.174317.17736@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> marshall@alpha.ces.cwru.edu ( ) writes: > > In a previous posting, Dave Neff claimed that one weakness >of the DeskJet+ is its inability to print labels. Well, I'd just >like to add to that the statement that I have printed several pages >of labels quite easily on a HP DeskJet+. It was simple and straight- >foreward. I too have printed many labels -- but never a pin-fed label. I used labels formatted 12 rows of 3 labels each, the entire page the same size as a 8.5x11" piece of paper. Remember, though, that if you wish to use these labels for mailing, it better not be raining anywhere those labels end up!!! Smudge smudge smudge. -- Tom Bellucco - moscom!tmb@cs.rochester.edu or {...}!rochester!moscom!tmb ------------------------------------- "Whatever I said, I didn't mean it...unless, of course, you liked it!" #include <std.disclaimer>