cooper@plains.UUCP (Jeff Cooper) (02/28/90)
I'm looking for a editor that can work with HUGE (2 meg) files. Does anyone know of any editors that can handle this? I thought QEdit could, but it's limited to 640K and so cuts the file off when it runs out of memory. I really don't care if the editor loads the whole thing into RAM or reads it off the disk as it is needed. (I'd prefer the latter, I have enough memory but I'd like a "disk based" editor) Thanks for any help anyone can offer me. Jeff Cooper cooper@plains.nodak.edu
kchen@castor.usc.edu (02/28/90)
In article <3658@plains.UUCP> cooper@plains.UUCP (Jeff Cooper) writes:
::I'm looking for a editor that can work with HUGE (2 meg) files.
::Does anyone know of any editors that can handle this? I thought
::QEdit could, but it's limited to 640K and so cuts the file off
::when it runs out of memory. I really don't care if the editor
::loads the whole thing into RAM or reads it off the disk as it
::is needed. (I'd prefer the latter, I have enough memory but
::I'd like a "disk based" editor) Thanks for any help anyone can
::offer me.
::
::Jeff Cooper
::cooper@plains.nodak.edu
Try I?M Personal Editor II which has no limit of the file size as long as
you have space on disk to store temp file.
If the memory is not enough to store the big file, it automatically create
a temp file to store it.
It also has the most powerful block commands to do cut and paste.
It is programmable, but very slow.
It has not limit to open files and at most can open 4 windows in one screen.
All together, I love to use it to write programs using its powerful cut and
paste. For word processing, better try other editor.baer@uwovax.uwo.ca (02/28/90)
In article <3658@plains.UUCP>, cooper@plains.UUCP (Jeff Cooper) writes: > I'm looking for a editor that can work with HUGE (2 meg) files. > Does anyone know of any editors that can handle this? I thought > QEdit could, but it's limited to 640K and so cuts the file off > when it runs out of memory. I really don't care if the editor > loads the whole thing into RAM or reads it off the disk as it > is needed. (I'd prefer the latter, I have enough memory but > I'd like a "disk based" editor) Thanks for any help anyone can > offer me. I think the program editor (PE.EXE) in word perfect library might help you. I've not worked with files as big as 2 mB (though I think I've done a couple around 720k). I believe this editor sets up auxilliary files on disk to handle overflows (upwards or downwards) when an entire file will not fit into RAM. Of course it takes forever to load a big file (on my AT with a 28ms. hard drive), and moving down large numbers of lines is a lot slower than it is for a document which fits into RAM. Again, I'm not 100% positive that it will handle 2mB files, but there's a good chance it will. If you use OS/2, I believe the OS/2 system editor should be able to handle big files too (probably not an option for most readers!). ------------------------------------------------- Douglas Baer, Assoc. Prof., Dept. of Sociology, University of Western Ontario, London, Canada N6A 5C2 Internet: BAER@UWO.CA Bitnet: BAER@UWOVAX Telephone: [home] (519)-657-4799 *most reliable number [office] (519)-661-3859 [leave messages, M-F 9-4pm EST] (519)-661-3606
rspangle@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Randy Spangler) (02/28/90)
In article <3658@plains.UUCP> cooper@plains.UUCP (Jeff Cooper) writes: >I'm looking for a editor that can work with HUGE (2 meg) files. >Does anyone know of any editors that can handle this? I thought >QEdit could, but it's limited to 640K and so cuts the file off >when it runs out of memory. I really don't care if the editor >loads the whole thing into RAM or reads it off the disk as it >is needed. (I'd prefer the latter, I have enough memory but >I'd like a "disk based" editor) Thanks for any help anyone can >offer me. Ahem. (glance around to make sure no one is listening) Dare I suggest (gasp) WordStar? I've used releases 3.3, 4.0, and 5.0 with files >1.2MB, so I assume it will handle 2MB just fine, too. And yes, I even still use WordStar. And admit it in public. :-) :-) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Randy Spangler | The less things change, the | | rspangle@jarthur.claremont.edu | more they remain the same | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
bryan@stiatl.UUCP (Bryan Donaldson) (02/28/90)
cooper@plains.UUCP (Jeff Cooper) writes: >I'm looking for a editor that can work with HUGE (2 meg) files. >Does anyone know of any editors that can handle this? I thought >QEdit could, but it's limited to 640K and so cuts the file off >when it runs out of memory. I really don't care if the editor >loads the whole thing into RAM or reads it off the disk as it >is needed. (I'd prefer the latter, I have enough memory but >I'd like a "disk based" editor) Thanks for any help anyone can >offer me. >Jeff Cooper >cooper@plains.nodak.edu MIght I suggest the Norton Editor? I know it will work on 2M files as I've used it on 4m files. You will need enough space on disk for another copy of the file, but that shouldn't be too much of a problem. It's available from : Peter Norton Computing, Inc. 2210 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 186 Santa Monica, CA 90403 (213) 453-2361 It's also available through most mail order houses. The price is usually in the $30 to $60 range. BGD. -- Bryan Donaldson gatech!stiatl!bryan Sales Technologies, Inc 3399 Peachtree Rd, NE Atlanta, GA (404) 841-4000
robison@dfsun1.electro.swri.edu (Bob Robison) (02/28/90)
In article <3658@plains.UUCP> cooper@plains.UUCP (Jeff Cooper) writes: >I'm looking for a editor that can work with HUGE (2 meg) files. >Does anyone know of any editors that can handle this? I thought ... >Jeff Cooper >cooper@plains.nodak.edu I haven't tried it on files that big, but the Norton Editor (Peter Norton Utilities) claims to handle files of any size. I have used it on files larger than I had memory for and it swaps to disk as required. Price is reasonable too, around $50. bob -- Bob Robison - Southwest Research Institute, Electromagnetics Div. robison@dfsun1.electro.swri.edu {sun!texsun, gatech!petro, uunet!cs.utexas.edu}!swrinde!dfsun1!robison
randy@uutopia.dell.com (randy) (02/28/90)
In article <3658@plains.UUCP>, cooper@plains.UUCP (Jeff Cooper) writes: > I'm looking for a editor that can work with HUGE (2 meg) files. > Does anyone know of any editors that can handle this? (I'd prefer the latter, I have enough memory but > I'd like a "disk based" editor) Thanks for any help anyone can > offer me. > > Jeff Cooper > cooper@plains.nodak.edu You don't state the particulars of your needs, but I would like to suggest Brief. I have used in in program development and repairing damaged files. In the case of the latter, Brief is particularly effective as it will also edit lines of 512 characters. It has macros and is customizable for various languages also. As I recall it is not terribly expensive. OS/2 and DOS version also. Randy ________________________________________________________ Randy Price randy@uutopia.dell.com The opinions are my own, not my employers, cognito. "There is no expedient to which man will not resort to avoid the real labor of thinking." Thomas Edison _______________________________________________________
piety@hplred.HP.COM (Bob Piety) (03/01/90)
I like Epsilon (from Lugaru Software). Its an EMACS-like editor and comes with an extender/compiler to let you customize it. It is "disk-based" in that any size file can be edited-- it swaps blocks in and out of RAM as needed. I've edited files over 10 MB in size. If you like emacs, you'll like epsilon. Bob
marshall@wind55.seri.gov (Marshall L. Buhl) (03/01/90)
In article <3658@plains.UUCP> cooper@plains.UUCP (Jeff Cooper) writes: >I'm looking for a editor that can work with HUGE (2 meg) files. >Does anyone know of any editors that can handle this? I thought >QEdit could, but it's limited to 640K and so cuts the file off >when it runs out of memory. I really don't care if the editor >loads the whole thing into RAM or reads it off the disk as it >is needed. (I'd prefer the latter, I have enough memory but >I'd like a "disk based" editor) Thanks for any help anyone can >offer me. I use the SEE editor from C Ware. You normally get it with their C compiler, but I get it separately for $10 per copy in units of 5 or more. It's very easy to learn and use. I can teach it to a new user in about 15 minutes. It does most everything you need. Search and replace, cut and paste. Copy to/from other files. Edit two files at a time. Paragraph wrapping. It finds matching parens and braces. Auto indent. Macro recording. Sets colors for foreground/background. You can insert non-printing characters by entering their ASCII decimal equivalents. It's designed as a C language editor and you can use their compiler from within it. It allows escape to DOS shells, so you can run other programs while in the editor - if you have enough available RAM. It uses about 110K itself. You can define up to 4 tags in the file and then jump to them with a simple command. They are useful as place markers. If you enter a pound sign while in command mode, it will give you the line and column you are on. You can jump to any line in the file by typing the line number followed by a #. You can put tabs every n places. All commands are intuitive. You don't even need a manual. I just tested it out with a 2.5 MB file. It worked fine. It takes 12 seconds to get to the bottom on a Dell 386/25. All-in-all it's about 100 times better than vi. MUCH easier to learn and use. It's so simple, that even occasional users have no problem. VERY highly recommended. -- Marshall L. Buhl, Jr. EMAIL: marshall@wind55.seri.gov Senior Computer Engineer VOICE: (303)231-1014 Wind Research Branch 1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO 80401-3393 Solar Energy Research Institute Solar - safe energy for a healthy future
trgauchat@lion.waterloo.edu (Terry Gauchat) (03/01/90)
In article <9159@stiatl.UUCP> bryan@stiatl.UUCP (Bryan Donaldson) writes: }MIght I suggest the Norton Editor? I know it will work on 2M files }as I've used it on 4m files. You will need enough space on disk }for another copy of the file, but that shouldn't be too much of a }problem. I think Norton Editor has a problem with long lines. I don't know what the max is, but it has annoyed me a few times! ...Terry.
kdq@demott.COM (Kevin D. Quitt) (03/01/90)
I use Epsilon for files that are multi-megabyte. I consider it to be the best editor on any machine; it is our department standard. kdq -- Kevin D. Quitt Manager, Software Development DeMott Electronics Co. VOICE (818) 988-4975 14707 Keswick St. FAX (818) 997-1190 Van Nuys, CA 91405-1266 MODEM (818) 997-4496 Telebit PEP last 34 12 N 118 27 W srhqla!demott!kdq kdq@demott.com
toma@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM (Tom Almy) (03/01/90)
Is this another editor war? At any rate, Epsilon will do it, even if it isn't an ascii file! Tom Almy toma@tekgvs.labs.tek.com Standard Disclaimers Apply
Ralf.Brown@B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU (03/01/90)
In article <2470@uudell.dell.com>, randy@uutopia.dell.com (randy) wrote: }In article <3658@plains.UUCP>, cooper@plains.UUCP (Jeff Cooper) writes: }> I'm looking for a editor that can work with HUGE (2 meg) files. } }You don't state the particulars of your needs, but I would like to }suggest Brief. I have used in in program development and repairing }damaged files. In the case of the latter, Brief is particularly }effective as it will also edit lines of 512 characters. It has macros Only 512 characters? Sprint will handle arbitrarily long lines--when I first bought it, I made up a test file consisting of a single 70,000-character line. Sprint handled it just fine (except that the column count overflowed its 16-bit counter). Although I've never had occasion to edit multi-meg files, Sprint does handle files much larger than available memory. I regularly edit a 600K file in a 250K partition under DESQview.... -- UUCP: {ucbvax,harvard}!cs.cmu.edu!ralf -=- 412-268-3053 (school) -=- FAX: ask ARPA: ralf@cs.cmu.edu BIT: ralf%cs.cmu.edu@CMUCCVMA FIDO: Ralf Brown 1:129/46 "How to Prove It" by Dana Angluin Disclaimer? I claimed something? 14. proof by importance: A large body of useful consequences all follow from the proposition in question.
sadow@ncsatl.uucp (Scott C. Sadow) (03/01/90)
Try hte Norton Editor. Not only is it fast, but if it cannot load the entire file into memory, you can "page" through the file. I have edited files well over 1 meg before... -- Scott Sadow ...gatech!ncsatl!sadow
sadow@ncsatl.uucp (Scott C. Sadow) (03/01/90)
In article <21402@watdragon.waterloo.edu>, trgauchat@lion.waterloo.edu (Terry Gauchat) writes: > In article <9159@stiatl.UUCP> bryan@stiatl.UUCP (Bryan Donaldson) writes: > }MIght I suggest the Norton Editor? I know it will work on 2M files > }as I've used it on 4m files. You will need enough space on disk > }for another copy of the file, but that shouldn't be too much of a > }problem. > > I think Norton Editor has a problem with long lines. I don't know > what the max is, but it has annoyed me a few times! > > > ...Terry. According to the Norton Editor Documentation, it can handle lines up to 64k. (I have edited files with lines beyond 32k with no problems) (By the way - another good thing about the Norton Editor - it is FAST) -- Scott Sadow ...gatech!ncsatl!sadow
celoni@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Jim Celoni) (03/01/90)
I've used both Borland's Sprint ($60 academic, $120 street, $195 list) and Lugaru's Epsilon ($125 street, $195 list) to edit multi-megabyte files. I use Borland's user interface, though you can switch between that one and others that mimic Emacs, Wordstar, FinalWord, Microsoft Word, WordPerfect, Multimate, Sidekick, etc.). +j
ho@fergvax.unl.edu (Tiny Bubbles...) (03/02/90)
From article <3658@plains.UUCP>, by cooper@plains.UUCP (Jeff Cooper): > I'm looking for a editor that can work with HUGE (2 meg) files. > Does anyone know of any editors that can handle this? I thought Try Multi-Edit, available as ME400A.ARC on Simtel and elsewhere. I would only use it if you have a fairly fast computer or hard drive; on my 8 MHz XT with a dog Seagate HD, editing huge files is unbearable. Multi-Edit can be configured to use either disk swapping files or expanded memory. --- ... Michael Ho, University of Nebraska Internet: ho@hoss.unl.edu USnail: 115 Nebraska Union Lincoln, NE 68588-0461
trent@uncecs.edu (Glenn Jordan) (03/02/90)
If you want Brief, but can't afford it, you will find BlackBeard editor an inexpensive shareware Brief clone. (BB instead of B) It is available from SIMTEL20 in the pd1:<msdos.editors> by FTP or listserv. The latest version was BLKBD746.ARC, released recently, but I have had trouble with that one and still use the BLKBD739 earlier version, which seems flawless and is quite powerful. If you register, you will get a Blackbeard coffee mug!
sorc@carina.unm.edu (Paul Caskey) (03/06/90)
On 27 Feb 90 23:36:03 GMT,
cooper@plains.UUCP (Jeff Cooper) said:
Jeff> I'm looking for a editor that can work with HUGE (2 meg) files.
PCTools v4+ has a decent word processor that uses overlays and
therefore has no limit. Borland's editor in the various Turbo
languages can use EMS for the, so that may work if you have the
expanded memory for it. Nortans? Ick.
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/*********/djb@bbt.UUCP (beauvais) (03/10/90)
In article <3658@plains.UUCP> cooper@plains.UUCP (Jeff Cooper) writes: >I'm looking for a editor that can work with HUGE (2 meg) files. KEDIT 4.0 uses extended memory. I don't prefer to work with 2 M files, but KEDIT will report 3+ M available when I run it on my 4M 386. Besides, KEDIT is a really nice editor! KEDIT 4.0 Mansfield Software Group, Inc. PO Box 532 Storrs, CT 06268 (203)-429-8402 Just a satisfied customer... Dan -- Dan Beauvais {backbone}!rti!bbt!djb BroadBand Technologies, Inc. (919)-544-6850 x 295 Box 13737 Research Triangle Park, NC 27709-3737
andyross@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Andrew Rossmann) (03/11/90)
> Resp: 21 of 21 by djb at bbt.UUCP >Author: [beauvais] >>I'm looking for a editor that can work with HUGE (2 meg) files. >KEDIT 4.0 uses extended memory. I don't prefer to work with 2 M files, but ^^^^^^^^ I believe this is wrong. Kedit uses EXPANDED (EMS) memory. It actually uses both conventional and expanded. If you have 700K of expanded available, and 300K of conventional, you can work on up to 1M worth of files (you can have several open at the same time.) KEDIT is a really nice TEXT editor (it is NOT a word processor.) The macro language is fairly nice (but not as nice as Borland's Sprint!) Andrew Rossmann andyross@ddsw1.MCS.COM