[comp.sys.ibm.pc] Out of Memory

jxb@rayssdb.ray.com (Jack Bell) (03/10/90)

I have recently purchased a PS/2 50z for home use.  The system
has Windows 286, hDC Express, Windows Manager and several
applications.  I did not purchase any additional memory as there
was no funds available :-(  At the time I felt the 1Mb would
surely be enough as I had been using an Apple ][+ with only 64k.
I am trying to make this system very user friendly for my kids,
preferably everything should be able to run without exiting from
the menu system.  My kids are presently only only using the
computer to run games and I have been partially successful in
getting these to run under Windows by carefully editing the .PIF
files.  

I have had difficulty with one game in particular- Where in Time
is Carmen SanDiego.  There simply was not enough memory available
to run in the Windows environment.  To make matters worse it still
would not operate even after exiting both Windows and the shell,
even though there was well over the recommended 512k memory requirement
available.  The only success I have had in executing this program
was when both the smartdrv.sys and himem.sys drivers were
removed from config.sys and the program was run from the C:
prompt.  I feel that this is an unacceptable solution as a cache
driver is really necessary.  I tried using ibmcache.sys which uses
only 8k vs the 24k used by smartdrv.sys (BTW himem will not work with
ibmcache)  with no luck.  One possibility might be to remove PRINT
and GRAPHICS which are resident in memory (probably called by
command.com although I am not sure).  I do not know how to do this
and have found no help in the manual.

At this point I would appreciate any suggestions.  What would be
real nice is a compact program which when called by windows would
clear all possible memory and then call the application desired.
When the application was complete this program should restore
Windows to its previous state.  Is such a program available?

Thanks in advance.

dlow@hpspcoi.HP.COM (Danny Low) (03/15/90)

>I have had difficulty with one game in particular- Where in Time
>is Carmen SanDiego.  There simply was not enough memory available
>to run in the Windows environment.  

Most games and educational programs for kids on the PC do not 
acknowledge the existence of Windows, extended or expanded
memory or TSRs. They often require a bare bones MSDOS systems.
Many of them take over the keyboard and cannot run under Windows.
IOW, expect most games and educational programs to work ONLY
in a straight DOS environment. Expect problems with TSRs such
as extended/expanded memory managers and disk caches.

			   Danny Low
    "Question Authority and the Authorities will question You"
	   Valley of Hearts Delight, Silicon Valley
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